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post #1 of 4 Old 07-05-2012, 02:07 AM Thread Starter
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Help me out here please!

1. The horse I lease always wants to go go go. When I stop him he only stops for a few seconds than goes again and I keep having to pull back and "whoa". I usually just let him take off and I know this is BAD so I need some help here. When I stop him should I keep pressure on the reins so he doesn't go? I always dropped the reins when they listened to my commands and have never had a problem with any other horse.

2. I like to keep him at a trot for now so I can get my position correct and he always tries to take off in a canter, especially around turns. (he used to be a barrel horse so maybe this is why?) how do I get him to stay at a trot without "whoa-ing and stopping him?" because when I pull back on the reins he just goes right back to the walk when I want him to stay at the trot.

3. Finally, a lot of people on here have said his trot/jog is very fast and choppy and I need to slow him down. How do I do that? Sorry if that's a dumb question, but I really need to work on him listening to what I want before it gets out of hand.

Also, his cues are more verbal. I kiss at him to trot and honestly have no idea how to get him to walk he just goes lol and I have no idea his cues for canter either. Is there a ways I can figure these out on my own?

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post #2 of 4 Old 07-05-2012, 06:19 PM
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Ok, I will answer your questions in the best order I can.
For a proper "whoa". before all else, relax. Before you get on, make sure your not anticipating his anxiety. Take deep breaths, stretch, and when you get in the saddle be a heavy and lazy as you can without losing your position, don't give any signs of anticipation or speed. Go at a walk, with good contact and a generally relaxed horse. When you decide you want to stop, lean back, bring your hand back and do your "whoa" as normal. When his feet stop moving, hold the reins at that tension for a count of "one". do it out loud if it helps. Slowly release, and as soon as for feel him even shift his weight forward, immediately ask him to back up. Back him up six or seven strides, release and ask for whoa. Make sure you don't touch him with your feet at all. Try to keep some kind of contact through all of this. After backing, if he tries to keep going forward, ask him to back again. Repeat this until you can stop him, and count to three, then work on something else for a minute. Repeat this process periodically through your ride. Remember to not get in his face unless he's going forward when you don't want him to.
For the rushing trot. Again, be as relaxed with your seat as you can possibly be. Show no signs of anxiety. Keep some very light contact in your reins, let the horse walk and be relaxed, and just barely ask for the trot. Just the smallest smooch. If he doesn't respond, increase the intensity of your asking. When he does trot, keep the rein as light light light as you can, post to keep up with as lazy a seat as possible, say "easy" and just barely tug in a seesaw motion with your hands (you need to go back to direct reining for this training.)Use just your pinkies. Its kind of a "bump bump bump", just a gentle reminder. Make sure to keep your voice calm as well. If he still breaks into a canter, immediately stop him. And back him up until he whoas like above. Let him walk until he's relaxed, and begin again. This will work not only for the accidental canter strides, but also for slowing him down so he's less choppy.

Use whatever canter cue you want. Your teaching it to him. Personally, I lift my inside rein, and push with my outside heel. He'll be rushy at the canter, so use the same technique as for the trot, to slow him down at the canter. Remember to be as relaxed as possible If he refuses to respond to light contact, increase it. If it increases to being a strain on your arms, push him. Open up and let him run. Kep him running at the speed he chose, even when he wants to slow down. And when you think he's tired, get your one or two good slow canter go arounds, and be done. If he does it again, do it again. After a couple times of this, if he's still pulling and running off with you, start asking him to come back using the same technique for the trot. increase contact until its a strain on your arms, then stop, back him til he whoas, walk til he chills, and try again.

Whooo that was long. Hope this helped :)
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post #3 of 4 Old 07-05-2012, 07:18 PM
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Bottom line is you've let him take charge by letting him run off, by tentatively telling him to trot with a kiss (most horses know that means go fast) instead of your legs, and he desperately needs a tune up IMOP.

Does he lunge well? If so, I would go over what walk, trot, and canter speed is via lunging.

If you can't do that. Walk trot, walk. walk 4 beats, trot 4 beats, walk 4 beats, trot 5 beats, etc. Press for longer time at the walk. Use one rein open to the side to turn his nose towards your inside leg and one closed leg on the outside of the bend to disengage him if he's not listening to you.

"Strength is the ability to use a muscle without tension"
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For the walk/stop problem - Pull in the reins and deepen your seat. The second he stops, release pressure on both your seatbones and the reins. If he goes again, repeat. Keeping constant pressure on the reins can spell trouble for a horse who wants to go so much and can't find release from the pressure. When releasing the pressure, you reward him. It might take him a ride or two, but be consistant.

For everything else - Halfhalt! Halfhalts are half a halt. They slow the horse down without breaking gait. It might take the horse and you a couple tries to get the idea, but they are key to a lot of things. When he slows down, release pressure on the reins for a reward. If you put pressure on the reins and hold it, he will stop. Some horses need to halfhalt every stride. Some horses just need a half halt every couple strides. Everytime you feel him pick up a speed faster than what you like, halfhalt to bring him back down to pace and release.
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