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    01-01-2013, 09:19 PM
  #1
Foal
Help need to make a decision....Warning long

Hello All,

So I have had my gelding for a year and I have only been able to ride him a handful of times. He is spooky and I had a riding accident before I bought him and he was supposed to be my confidence booster and has only become a danger for me and has made me a spooky rider. I have put money into training had him vetted I just think we are a bad match. I had a girl come try him out to possibly part board him and he was bad for her too. But the barn owner where he is located rides him all the time with no issues and the previous owner was a male and he also had no issues. I think he is a horse that tests you and if he senses any kind of fear he will take advantage. So I am thinking after a year of trying everything possible we are just not suitable for each other. So I'm going to sell him I think.
I don't want to give up on him but other then switching barns to see if he is just spooky where he is currently located I don' really know what else to do.

So I have been looking into new horses, looking for something I can lease for a while and then decide whether it is the right match and I can purchase it.

So I found a horse that I like she is a Canadian Sport horse 17hh has shown everything from eventing to dressage to fox hunting to jumping she has done it all and shown it all and has always done well. She is 20years old and absolutely beautiful and the owner has had her for 13 years and learned how to ride on this mare. It takes a lot to spook this mare and she is very safe. I have ridden her once so far and it went prettty well.
However, I had contacted the previous owner of my gelding to let them know that I was considering selling him. They got back to me and said they would consider buying him back. I paid a lot of money for this gelding and feel I really want my money back but I talked to them again tonight and they have another horse that they think would be suitable for what I'm wanting. For a while I didn'y know whether or not to trust them but if they sold me a bad horse why would they offer to take him back? So now their suggesting me try out this other horse they have for a month to see if she is a good fit and if so we would just do a trade for my gelding for their mare. My boyfriend wants our money back he does not want me to trade as he thinks I can get a good horse for half of what I paid for my gelding especially with the horse industry in canada not doing too well at the moment so people are literally giving horses away. But if they don't buy him back then who is going to buy this gelding that I can't show? I will not get on him. There is no way someone is going to pay what I did a year ago for a horse that seems to only allow men to ride him safely.

I think it's worth trying out this horse the old owners are offering me...Am I stupid to think it may be a better match? Or should I just see if the barn owner where he is being boarded would buy him for whatever he would be willing to pay and just cut my loses and move on?

I am doing lessons with a coach that I love one day a week for now and starting in a couple weeks will be doing two lessons a week. She seems to think I should stick with a smaller horse that is trained both western and english as right now I am riding western until I get my confidence back as I feel safer in a western saddle so that 17hh horse has not been in western tack but the owner feels there would be no reason why she couldn't.

So I lease both horses....I don't know I'm so lost and just don't know where I should go with all this.

I love my gelding but it's pretty bad I have a horse I can't ride. I just want to have a horse that I can enjoy.
Someone help!!!!!
     
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    01-01-2013, 09:40 PM
  #2
Started
1. Sell the spooky boy back to the folks who want them.
2. Try out the new horse you like.
3. If it doesn't work, contact spooky gelding's folks and ask if their other horse that might work is still for sale and that you'd like to try that one.
     
    01-01-2013, 09:46 PM
  #3
Foal
A friend of mine has a horse that is aggressive and she wants her trained so her two year old daughter can ride her soon. She will buck, kick and rear. I am going to train her in the spring. She has had the saddle on her but bucks like crazy. If I were you, I wouldn`y give up. Maybe he like men more than ladies. I don`t know.
     
    01-01-2013, 09:58 PM
  #4
Trained
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Originally Posted by cowgirl1994    
A friend of mine has a horse that is aggressive and she wants her trained so her two year old daughter can ride her soon. She will buck, kick and rear. I am going to train her in the spring. She has had the saddle on her but bucks like crazy. If I were you, I wouldn`y give up. Maybe he like men more than ladies. I don`t know.
Good luck with that. I totally disagree in this mentality for this OP who has had an accident and needs a confidence builder. Cowgirl-your attitude gets a LOT of people hurt. Hopefully it will not be your friends child.

OP-I would tell the previous owners that at this point, you have another horse you would like to try, and try it. You will always wonder if you don't. My bet is that you may well not feel comfortable on a horse that size. Try her-and the, if you like her, sell the current horse to the previous owners. Otherwise, try the trade they offer, but only if they agree to buy yours if you don't want it. I had one like you have now, and basically ended up selling him for $500 (10% of what I paid) but at least he was "off the payroll" and I could move on.
     
    01-01-2013, 10:05 PM
  #5
Foal
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Good luck with that. I totally disagree in this mentality for this OP who has had an accident and needs a confidence builder. Cowgirl-your attitude gets a LOT of people hurt. Hopefully it will not be your friends child.

OP-I would tell the previous owners that at this point, you have another horse you would like to try, and try it. You will always wonder if you don't. My bet is that you may well not feel comfortable on a horse that size. Try her-and the, if you like her, sell the current horse to the previous owners. Otherwise, try the trade they offer, but only if they agree to buy yours if you don't want it. I had one like you have now, and basically ended up selling him for $500 (10% of what I paid) but at least he was "off the payroll" and I could move on.
I completely agree on your opinion on cowgirl....
Wow I really hope I will not end up getting nothing for him that would be such a loss.
     
    01-01-2013, 10:07 PM
  #6
Foal
I just thought if she does not give up, the horse maybe able to let her work with him
     
    01-01-2013, 10:07 PM
  #7
Green Broke
It won't to have a look at the former owner's trade prospect. At the very least, it's a help to get as much exposure as possible to different horses for your own confidence and experience; at best you might click with the prospect.

I do feel you probably won't get what you paid for your gelding a year ago. In the year's time you've had him, I'm sorry to say, it doesn't sound like he's done anything to improve or necessarily hold his value. In that case, a trade may make the best financial sense if you like the prospect.
     
    01-01-2013, 10:11 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by Chevaux    
It won't to have a look at the former owner's trade prospect. At the very least, it's a help to get as much exposure as possible to different horses for your own confidence and experience; at best you might click with the prospect.

I do feel you probably won't get what you paid for your gelding a year ago. In the year's time you've had him, I'm sorry to say, it doesn't sound like he's done anything to improve or necessarily hold his value. In that case, a trade may make the best financial sense if you like the prospect.
I didn't look at it like that...Definitely makes sense to me
     
    01-01-2013, 10:13 PM
  #9
Yearling
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Originally Posted by cowgirl1994    
A friend of mine has a horse that is aggressive and she wants her trained so her two year old daughter can ride her soon. She will buck, kick and rear. I am going to train her in the spring. She has had the saddle on her but bucks like crazy. If I were you, I wouldn`y give up. Maybe he like men more than ladies. I don`t know.
I hope you really think that through... you could be ruining your reputation and putting a very small defenseless child at risk. Kids horses are sought after and super expensive because of the rare qualities they need to possess like a quiet mind and calm demeanor. A horse that bucks, rears, bites, kicks whatever is not a child safe horse and one year of training is definitely not enough time to make it kid safe. I'm sure you can turn this horse around for intermediate adult riders but it will take years and years to get a horse like that kid proof and most horses like that never will be. Sorry if I seem rude (Promise I'm not being mean) but this situation is alarming to me and I'm worried about safety not only for the child but the horse as well...
Just remember if you train that horse and there is an accident with that little girl everyone is going to be blaming you. Trainers always get blamed even if it had nothing to do with the trainer or training. Things happen and they happen quick. The horse could be at risk if it hurt that little girl too. Not to mention a child that young can reverse all your training. I hope you really think it through. You should be stressing to your friend how stupid she is to put her daughter and horse at risk that way. My kids ride but we have KID horses that are in their 20s, been there done that horses. My daughter was riding in a front pack at a month old. I even rode pregnant but the horse I rode never bit, kicked, reared, bucked ever in their life. They make it a point to keep you on their back. A horse like that can be rare which is why they are expensive. That's the kind of horse you put a 2 years old on, not a green, barely broke, aggressive horse...
Sorry... rant over. Please be safe and smart and best of luck.
Also please don't take me rude or mean. It can be hard to communicate clearly on the internet and I am by no means trying to be rude at all.
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    01-01-2013, 10:14 PM
  #10
Foal
My trainer once told me something, "Don't give up on a horse if they have kinks, anyone can get the kinks out of a horse"
     

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