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    12-05-2012, 03:33 AM
^^ I am curious of this as well.

I am not going to say anything else about the situation as it really isn't my business to delve into your personal life. But I am curious as to what the tickle spot is/where it is.

I am guessing by flank you mean the area where the hair grows the opposite direction [it grows sort of up] between their stomach and hip? If so then I am surprised your mare kicks out because of that being touched. My gelding is trained that when I put pressure on that spot he is to move over. That is what I have done with every horse I have worked with. In that case, me being an experienced horse person unlike your DH, I still would have done the same thing he had done.
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    12-05-2012, 03:38 AM
I suppose I am fortunate enough to have a husband who interacts well with the horses and loves them almost as much as I do-hahaha. He initially had some trouble handling my Arab/Saddlebred gelding as he has a larger than life persona. He now understands him better and his quirks. I think you need to help your husband out and teach him how to properly handle your horse so that its safe for him. I'm sure you wouldn't want him to get injured if at all preventable. Good luck!
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    12-05-2012, 03:43 AM
Well at least he tried!
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    12-05-2012, 03:55 AM
I'm my opinion anyone that you expect to be around your horses must know how to do so safely. It sounds as though you're anthropomorphizing this mare a bit. Let her deal with these issues on her own.
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    12-05-2012, 04:01 AM
Wow if I said half the things you said to my non horse boyfriend he would have walked away and never helped me again. He did you favor so I would just let it go and work with your mare on her kicking out when touched.
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    12-05-2012, 04:21 AM
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It's really your responsibility to teach anyone who handles your horse how to handle him.

And, about the tickle spot - never in my life I've let a horse stay with such an attitude, NEVER. Kicking is not a thing to tolerate just because you presume it's a tickle spot - you put anyone who handles your horse in danger of injury.
    12-05-2012, 09:35 AM
My qh is (rather) well-trained yet I don't let my husband to deal with her. Simply because she's a strong alpha and takes advantage of anyone she can (NO kicking or biting though), and with him knowing nothing about horses (and not having real desire to learn) I'd rather be safe.

So yes, to the horse person holding a horse for 20 mins doesn't sound like a rocket science, however for the person with no experience and horse that can take advantage (or spook) it can be a tough task.
    12-05-2012, 10:00 AM
Banned husband would have walked away and never helped me again......although I wouldn't have asked him to hold my horse for 20 minutes would've been tied to a post and left there until I was done, and if she was a brat I would've left her there.....

As for touching the flank.......any horse who kicks out when it's flank is touched wouldn't be left in the hands of a non-horsey person......

I personally think your request of your husband was unreasonable and your response to his trying to handle your horse with a 'tickle spot' in my mind was unreasonable.........

Tie her to a post and save yourself the grief.........
    12-05-2012, 10:12 AM
This could have been a great teaching opportunity on your behalf for your DH. I hope you have not put him off too much in helping. You have to remember that even though you have been around horses for a long time, the DH hasn't and doesn't look at them the same or see the dangers. I try to explain anything to anyone that isn't experienced around horses like I would to a 4 or 5 year old. Be very clear, spell everything out, ask questions on what you just said, and keep a watchful eye at all times.
    12-05-2012, 10:16 AM
If I were your hubby I'd quit, no notice given and Miss Mare needs to learn "thou shall not kick when near people for whatever reason".

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