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post #11 of 39 Old 07-25-2012, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
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Or I could run out when I'm in a hurry. I will at least put all the powder/pellets in a baggy as that is easy enough.

The Mare Magic in smartpaks is, I think, $23 a month where as if I just buy the bag it comes to $8 a month. So that's a big difference. Everything else I think is pretty much the same.
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Hello. Well, I'm not familiar with the brands that you say but my first reaction would be to challenge whether she needs all those. It sounds like an awfully expensive lot of stuff you're feeding her and I wonder how much she is absorbing, and how much she's just urinating out again?

Is the oil for energy? How does this balance with the feeding of Safechoice? Do you need both?

I have never heard of a daily dewormer - why do you give this?

If Mare Magic is a requirement for mood management, I think I'd be inclined to study the ingredients and contact the manufacturers to find out if there is an all purpose balancer combined with a mare supplement and/or a flexibility supplement like the MSM.

Please let me make it clear that I'm not challenging your decisions to feed your mare all of these, just suggesting that you take a step back and see if there is a simpler way, or whether any of these are doubling up on each other.
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Keep the liquids in their original containers. Get a pump or an quick measuring cup or compromise and let that be the most time consuming part of feeding time.
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Originally Posted by Shropshirerosie View Post

I have never heard of a daily dewormer - why do you give this?
It's popular here in the states. It's a feed thorugh mild dose of wormer that helps keeps parasite levels down and for some horses is easier on their digestion than paste wormers as it doesn't irritate as badly. Many also have Diatomaceous Earth which prevents parasites, flies etc from breeding in horse feces.
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Shropshirerosie -

Mare magic - is raspberry leaves

Red cell - is an iron supplement the vet put her on since she was anemic, she
is not to come off of it until blood comes back normal.

MSM - is pure msm, nothing added. Vet suggested

Daily dewormer - is just that. A pellet that is fed everyday to keep her free
of worms. Vet strongly suggested this after the Panacur Powerpac.

Flax seed oil - to add fat calories, she needs more weight.

Safechoice - Complete feed, needs the calories.

Everything has been advised from my vet. Not the exact name brands
but the ingredients.
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The Mare Magic in smartpaks is, I think, $23 a month where as if I just buy the bag it comes to $8 a month. So that's a big difference. Everything else I think is pretty much the same.
I agree.

And then there is the Smartpak container to toss (yes I know recycle).

We have priced things out and it is less $ for what our folks feed to make things up on their own as well as less waste - and less time for me as a BO to feed. (I don't need to walk to the trash/recycle container every time I feed). The boarders who have prepared supplies have a bin in the feed area that I put the empty container in. Since most are out several times a week, they just pick a day to grab the empties and replace with filled ones. They refill while the horse is cooling or we are chatting.

Tupperware/rubbermaid/Glad containers can be used for months - then recycled when they break down. Or repurposed if the need for supplements goes away.
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Originally Posted by poppy1356 View Post

The Mare Magic in smartpaks is, I think, $23 a month where as if I just buy the bag it comes to $8 a month. So that's a big difference. Everything else I think is pretty much the same.
Are you buying actual, brand name, Mare Magic or just generic raspberry leaves? If you aren't buying generic raspberry leaves, I'd look into that option - MUCH cheaper. I get mine at $12/lb which ends up lasting about 3+ months. :)

How long does feeding usually take you? It only takes me about 5 minutes, tops, and Lacey gets at least 5 different things... However, all the things I feed are either pellets or powders, maybe liquids take longer...
Anyway, sounds like you got some good solutions so I won't offer anymore.

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Mare Magic is just an experiment right now. If she stays on it, I will find generic to keep costs down. But I may have to go to Regumate which has no generic and is outrageously priced. (I consult with the vet on this almost weekly, so I am not managing this myself)

Ha right now feeding takes me at least 15 minutes to prepare everything. I am trying to convince my bf to make me a feeding station of sorts so everything can be organized and in one spot. I also have to wet her feed down so she doesn't choke, but then the rest of the supplements have to go in after the water so they don't fall to the bottom.

Yes, Smartpaks can be cheaper, it really depends what you get. Plus, as mls stated, having to dispose of the containers everyday would be a hassle. For what I pay a month, I think it would almost double if I switched everything to smartpaks.

Tomorrow most likely I will start putting everything in baggys. I will prolly not change how I do the liquids, as that would prolly cause more of a mess then needed. And I think I would loose a lot of product that would stick in the container.

Oh yea and liquids take longer because I have to thoroughly mix them in. The Red cell is thick and if left on top she spits it out.
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I'm going nuts preparing my mare's dinner every night. She currently has 5 'additives' to her grain. I would like to do something to streamline this process as it takes forever to get it all ready.

She gets Mare Magic, daily dewormer and MSM. Then there are the liquids: Red cell and Flax seed oil.

This is all on top of her 4lbs of safechoice. Morning feeding is strictly safechoice but at night I have to add everything else.

So what are your ideas to make this easier??
Hi Poppy with the arab!!!
Does she even really need all those additives? I would take a close look and question them
Mare Magic - Its just a herbal type concoction and unlikely to be doing anything at all other than cost you money
Daily Dewormer - NO NO NO. I cant think of a vet who would suggest this any more as its the biggest cause of worm resistance in horses. Enlist in your vets poo sampling programme or worm 4 times a year using a product with a different active ingredient each time - talk to your vet for a routine he recommends if you arent sure yourself
Red Cell This stuff is great for horses who are lethargic, recovering from illness or have been in poor condition but for a healthy horse thats already got a touch of whiz bang NO
MSM Why does she need this?
Flax seed oil Do you need to feed this at all?
Safe Choice This is a really good balanced feed. I dont know which one you are using but I think that you'll find if your feeding the daily amount they suggest it has everything in it to keep your arab fit and healthy without spending money on all the other stuff you're using
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My horse is NOT healthy, this is why she gets all of this. She is still a bit underweight and still recovering from being severely emaciated with many deficiencies, including anemia.

Daily dewormer was suggested by my vet. He does not believe in fecal tests as they do not show all of the worms. Also the eggs don't always pass with every poo. She was full of the encysted worms, they don't show up on the fecal. I am not changing this without my vets permission.
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