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        05-29-2012, 07:19 AM
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    Yearling
    Helping out another horse - advice please.

    I stupidly put my hand up to help a semi neglected horse on the property I board at who is very obese and almost died after getting stuck on the ground about three weeks ago. The owners are quite nice but not dedicated at all, and were very grateful for our offer to house her in our spare paddock that we rarely use. The deal was simply to house her, and they care for her. However I realised they wouldn't really bother to turn up as they never did in the past and have been lumped with the work on our initial meeting.

    How would you go about asking them for more assistance? I don't want to kick the mare out - she's visibly losing weight and is much happier. I am worried she is bonding with myself and my best friend (we graze our two horses together) although the owners seemed to be thrilled that someone wants to look after her. Overall I'm doing this for her, but some days I do get really peeved that they're not looking after her themselves - though this is the reason they were kicked out from their previous grazing. They do have the means and live much closer than myself. I'm a university student too - and I still make it down almost every day.

    I know I'm being used, and I'm aware it's my fault for offering to help without making strict stipulations and perhaps a written agreement. She's not the first neglect case on the property that I've helped with, but she is the first where the owners are actually somewhat on the scene. I guess this is what makes me feel nervous, though every time I mention that I feel like I'm overstepping, they shoot back that they're not bothered in the slightest what I do with her.

    If you were equally 'stupid' (I like to think of myself as too kind hearted for my own good, and too in love with horses to watch them suffer) what would you do? I haven't mucked her out for the past three days, even though they told me they would muck her pen the other day. It's not been done... and I don't feel I can let it stay there for much longer to be honest. She needs her feet done, and I have given them my farrier's number and they agreed it was urgent to get her seen. I've also asked for a heavier rug (they apparently have a few for her) as its winter here, and was promised by the end of the weekend, but its now almost Wednesday here. I had to spend an hour of my time for my horses on her instead last week as she trashed her fence they set up for her, and she got into the long grass. Since I've done a proper job of fencing her up, she's stayed put so I don't think I'll have to go through that again.

    I guess I shouldn't complain, but I guess in my need for a vent, I just wondered if there was anyone else out there who would step forward like this, even though they knew it would have downsides.

    Thanks.
         
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        05-29-2012, 08:10 AM
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    Green Broke
    I offered to help out a boarder who had lost his job- a year ago. I have not seen a penny or him since then, though he has another job. I pay for everything for the horse & I don't even ride him.
    But I love him (the horse), he's happy, healthy & the Big goober is welcomed to stay.
    He was an A circuit, 5 gaited Saddlebred- he is worth something but he'll probably stay here forever just because I like him.
    I guess your choices are to ask them too leave or start charging them board & do the cares yourself.

    Of course they are happy with the arrangement!
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        05-29-2012, 08:25 AM
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    Yearling
    I have gotten myself into a couple of situations kind of similiar to what you have going on. We have two neighbors who wanted to get a horse, but had no experience with horses. So I volunteered to help each of them find a horse suitable for them. The finding them a horse didn't stop there. They expected me to teach them everything I knew and do the doctoring when required. One of the horses got a bad cut on one of it's hocks. They expected me to do the doctoring of the wound. I told them step-by-step how to treat the injury, but they let the wound get infected. So I did the giving it's antibiotic injections. I finally put a screeching halt to my being taken advantage of by them.

    I kept telling the 2nd neighbor that she needed an older horse for a first horse. I gave her lots of reading material and told her when she was ready I would help her find a horse. One morning she called me and told me to come see the 2 horses she bought. Well, those 2 horses were weanings and one had a bad cut on a leg. I was flabbergasted!! Again I was expected to do the doctoring. I was not going to allow myself to be taken advantage of again.

    It is very difficult to not want to help a horse and it's enviromental upkeep. I hope you find a way to get the horse's owner's to step up and be of help with their horse.
         
        05-29-2012, 09:03 AM
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    Yeah, sounds familiar. I was that stupid too, and for much longer time. You either have to keep doing what you do, or go straight to them and say they have to pay you for what you do (be ready though that it won't work, and in this case it'll be up to you to keep doing it for free or just give up).
         
        05-29-2012, 09:06 AM
      #5
    Showing
    Draw up a written contract, detailing what you're doing and how much you're going to charge them for it. Betcha the horse disappears!
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        05-29-2012, 10:42 AM
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    Yearling
    It's easy, being horse lovers, to get ourselves in kinda deep caring for someones horse who can't be bothered. You have to decide when it's enough. How far are you willing to go for a horse belonging to someone else?
    I'd do what several have suggested and write up a care contract. Be prepared for them not to honor it. Have your BO involved so if they choose to ignore it, there are options. BO is the only one who can actually take steps to kick them out or seize the horse. BO is also the one who would have to deal with the authorities if a neglect case came up. To me it would be courtesy to give the BO a heads up that trouble might be brewing.
         
        05-29-2012, 10:54 AM
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    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Rascaholic    
    It's easy, being horse lovers, to get ourselves in kinda deep caring for someones horse who can't be bothered. You have to decide when it's enough. How far are you willing to go for a horse belonging to someone else?
    I'd do what several have suggested and write up a care contract. Be prepared for them not to honor it. Have your BO involved so if they choose to ignore it, there are options. BO is the only one who can actually take steps to kick them out or seize the horse. BO is also the one who would have to deal with the authorities if a neglect case came up. To me it would be courtesy to give the BO a heads up that trouble might be brewing.
    Opps, I missed that she was a boarder too. In that case, yes, tell the BO, though the BO should already know what's going on.
         
        05-29-2012, 11:53 AM
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    Originally Posted by natisha    
    Opps, I missed that she was a boarder too. In that case, yes, tell the BO, though the BO should already know what's going on.
    I missed that too, and in this situation that would be my first step - tell the whole situation to BO or BM.
         
        05-29-2012, 04:35 PM
      #9
    Yearling
    Thanks everyone. I'm on bit of a hurry out the door to reply more but have to say that the landowner (who is our sense of a BO) is not going to step in. Years upon years have they allowed horses in all sorts of conditions onto this property. One horse was effectively dumped and it took me months, a lawyer and a close friend who rehomes to get this horse off our property.
    However I did mention the weight of the mare to him and that we hadnt seen them. He said he'd look into it. For 1.5yrs I'm being told by that I'll have a tap up by my paddocks. I'm not sure I'm going to see it any time soon. Now I hope you get that they're not really interested in the happenings of the horses. It's up to us.
    Got to head out I'll reply more later.
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