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post #1 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 09:53 AM Thread Starter
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Hire a trainer!

I am putting this here becouse I do not want to offend anyon on a paticuler thread.

I have ben brousing this forum for a while now and usualy keep quiet. But I just wanted to get something off my chest. I have noticed a standerd among all of the posts mostly on the training section.

#1 someone askes a question. (simeple enough)
#2 the first post on EVERY new thread is " Hire yourself a profesional trainer"
LOL i understand that in some cases a newbie does need a guiding hand but I read one post where a guy was just wanting to find some games to play with his yearling during an inactive time waiting on it to get old enough to train. Yet again some of the responces was "Hire yourself a profasional trainer". WHY!
im sorry but we dont all have tons of money to throw at a trainer for every little question.
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post #2 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 09:55 AM
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I agree, not every situation calls for a professional trainer.

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post #3 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 10:01 AM
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I think many people probably come on here looking for advice because they cannot afford, or do not have access to, a trainer.

While a professional trainer is often the "best" choice to make, its not one that everyone can make. I think some people forget that sometimes, and they miss the fact that people come on her for help because they don't have other resources.
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post #4 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 10:09 AM
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I don't think any of us are independently wealthy, but if someone takes on an untrained horse and has no experience with one, it's their responsibility to make sure the animal is trained properly. Which means hiring a professional, and not trying to muddle through it themselves.

Too many people take on young, untrained animals and then muck them up because they think they have some kind of wunderkind training skills, when in truth they couldn't train their way out of a paper bag.

If you want the horse to have a fair shake at life, getting it professionally trained is the only way to make that happen.

How many 'wild', 'crazy' horses are sent to auction because their owners made them that way? Far too many. If people weren't so cheap and didn't have delusions of grandeur about themselves, maybe less horses would wind up at auction.

Everything you teach a horse, good or bad, it retains. Sure, if someone just wants to play baby games and maybe teach their weanling to lead, that's fine. However, breaking to saddle and a precise discipline takes a heck of a lot more than an owner reading a book or watching a DVD.

If you're too cheap to hire a trainer for a horse that needs more training than your actual skill level, then buy a horse who's already trained. It's really that simple.

We have a responsibility to these animals to give them the best shot at life we can. If you can't commit your mind, heart and pocket book to that, then don't bother.
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post #5 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 10:15 AM
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What Speedy said.

Plus, when someone posts that they got a baby and they have never owned a horse before and they have not been in the horse world for a while it is just a disaster waiting to happen.

Games you are playing with your (general, not specific) yearling now can easily set the course for pretty serious training issues in the future.

Yearlings are cute and 'little'. People tend to forget (with horses and dogs) that this cute thing will grow up to be an adult and the fact that you thought it was cute that it would bump into you and steal your hat was a fun game to play now might just be a very dangerous sport in the future.

An experienced horse person would not get the same 'get a trainer' response.
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post #6 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 10:31 AM
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I agree with the posts about inexperience. People get weanlings and yearlings as first horses because

1) they're less expensive to purchase

2) think they can 'raise' a colt like a puppy

3) think they're less likely to get hurt

Where do 90% of the neglected, tormented, and horrifying monster horses come from? You know, the 10yr old proud cut gray gelding no one has been brave enough to touch so he's run the pasture for 7 years? Where did he come from? He came from inexperienced horse people that wanted a horse, but wanted a cheap one. $200 or even $500 vs $1500 sounds like a deal, right? Except anyone conscious of horses at all would know that by buying a $1500 horse will not only save you the $1500 (plus!) in vet bills, feed, and equipment to handle this young one for that year you have to wait to even think about riding him. He needs his wolf teeth pulled, his nuts chopped, and his feet properly maintained through this stage most importantly, because that activity makes the horse or breaks the horse. Then you have to factor in a trainer to break said colt. Don't think about doing it yourself, because you will find yourself with a disrespectful 5yr old you can't handle and want to sell him, then be absolutely disappointed when someone only offers you a couple hundred bucks for the mess that you made. Think about what you've lost that could have been spent toward a better horse for you, and a horse that you didn't set up to fail at life.
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post #7 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 10:39 AM
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And again, as posted above, every little game counts. A professional can tell you whether or not the game is safe. You may think it's cute to make your little one 'shake' on command, but that colt isn't picking up on the fact that its a game. That horse is learning to paw at you, and in turn will lead to striking.

Professional help is very important, much the same as it takes help learning to drive, learning to shoot, or learning to ride a motorcycle. Only one difference: the car, the gun, the motorcycle... They don't have a mind of their own. They can't hurt you on your own like a horse can. And that's exactly why PROFESSIONAL help us necessary until you gain the knowledge through experience yourself... In which a professional can teach you!
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post #8 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 10:48 AM
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My biggest thing is the willingness to provide. I live off next to nothing moneywise, but if one of those horses get sick, you better believe they will receive vet attention. I arranged an agreement with my vet to pay bills off if they are too much for me to pay at once.

If I know feet are due for trimming, I save for the weeks preceding. Same for worming. I have money set aside for hay and feed every pay day. I have a horse who needs to go to a professional trainer, so he will. I am saving up the money for it.

I don't expect people to drop everything and have their horse on a trailer to the trainer the next day. I do expect that they plan, save and act. If your horse needs a trainer, get them a trainer. If your horse needs a vet, get them a vet.

It's all about the willingness to work and save for what your horse/s needs.

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post #9 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 11:25 AM
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I agree with the original post.... when I ask a question, it is because I know others on here have ideas on doing things differently, not because I want to hear "hire a trainer".
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post #10 of 14 Old 07-07-2010, 11:30 AM
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Citrus, if it's a simple question with a simple answer that's not a problem. However, if it's someone who wants to know how to do something that should only be attempted by a professional, then they'll get the 'hire a trainer' answer.

If people think untrained horses are 'cheaper' than already trained animals, they're in for a rude awakening. Nothing worth doing right is ever inexpensive, and that goes triple for horses.

Yes, I can give you advice on everyday, mundane care and training issues that every horse owner needs to know. I cannot and will not give advice to people on how to break an animal, because I'm not a trainer and that's the way to get people and animals hurt, killed, or just plain ruined.
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