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        07-07-2014, 12:10 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    I remember him.

    For curiosity why doesn't he just wear the black prosthetic at home if it's more "normal"?

    You say he's a hassle and then say you're attached.

    What are his issues NOW? Are you sure he's stable? (As far as allergies go) If the eye isn't an issue then it isn't an issue. Consider it may hold him back from jumping down the road. You need to think now and the future, I wouldn't think about the past unless it concerns those (eg you aren't sure he's stable with his allergies etc)

    Honestly, I buy horses I'm attached to. You need to decide how much his issues effect you, your bank account, then anyone else who may be involved (barn staff) which also may effect your bank account (extra charge for extra care). Then how this issues will/might effect him in say 10 years.

    Decide what's more important to you, the attachment/him, showing, $ (you may spend less on a horse without issues!) etc.
         
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        07-07-2014, 12:17 AM
      #12
    Foal
    The fact that you mention his eye as your first con probably reveal that you are not as into him. Objectively speaking, it is a non-issue. Are you feeling self conscious about it?

    There's a one-eyed horse in our lesson barn, and there are 3 horses with allergies. Neither seem like a big deal, to be honest. A horse can develop an allergy, so buying a horse that isn't allergic isn't a guarantee.

    The only real issue seems to be his attitude. What are you or anyone doing about it? Other than this could be allergy related, it is also an issue of training / groundwork.
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        07-07-2014, 12:20 AM
      #13
    Trained
    If you can just set aside the money you'd be spending on his issues for 1 year and keep taking lessons on another horse, I would do that. Then after 1 or 2 years, I'd go buy what I wanted. I don't spend $1000/year on my WORST horse let alone one I'd consider to be my show horse. Add attitude and the fact he's kicked 2 people in less than a year? NOPE.
         
        07-08-2014, 07:57 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    He doesn't like the black prosthetic because it was made when he was 4 I believe, so it doesn't quite fit as well as the white one. He tries to rub it a lot and it gets more gooky than the white ones does. I have said a few times in this thread that it is a non issue at this point after dealing with it for a year, but this is why I could get him so cheap. This isn't the reason I am deciding whether I want him, rather the reason I have the option to have him at all. As I said earlier, with two eyes he would be incredibly out of my price range.

    I would buy him to be my show horse, and the goal would be to do the big hunter shows. I think some of you guys are thinking that I am trying to decide between showing and my attachment to him, and this is not the case. It is more an issue of buying a horse with known issues and a bad attitude rather than spending exponentially more money and going into debt to my parents to buy an unknown horse.

    One issue I actually hadn't considered until someone brought it up was the idea of resale. If I bought him I would most likely never be able to sell him. At most I might be able to lease him out. I know he would be hard to sell because his owner is actually a breeder and has been trying to sell him since he was born to no success. He has also had multiple people come look at him since he has been with him and nobody was really willing to look past his missing eye. So there is no doubt he would be hard if not impossible to sell in the future when he is even older.
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        07-08-2014, 11:05 AM
      #15
    Foal
    I never thought about the issue of resale. When I buy my horses I buy then for life. But I'm not big into showing I get my guys for the fun of it. But that's just me. If you are positive you are going to want to resale him in the future his eye will more than likely be a problem. It's a non issue for me but like you already said people have turned him down because of it.
    I'm like yogiwick I buy horses I'm attached to. So I guess I'm not the best to be giving you advice. Lol
    Whatever happens I hope you are happy
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        07-09-2014, 07:52 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    So I think that I am definitely leaning towards buying him. I've discussed it extensively with my trainer and she thinks that I will not get a show horse of his caliber anywhere near my budget. She also agrees that he is talented enough that I will never outgrow him as far as his abilities go. The other trainer at my barn agrees, and so do some of the other people I have shown with. I don't have to make any decisions right now, but I think that is the way I am more inclined.
         
        07-14-2014, 12:23 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by kathryn    
    He doesn't like the black prosthetic because it was made when he was 4 I believe, so it doesn't quite fit as well as the white one. He tries to rub it a lot and it gets more gooky than the white ones does. I have said a few times in this thread that it is a non issue at this point after dealing with it for a year, but this is why I could get him so cheap. This isn't the reason I am deciding whether I want him, rather the reason I have the option to have him at all. As I said earlier, with two eyes he would be incredibly out of my price range.

    I would buy him to be my show horse, and the goal would be to do the big hunter shows. I think some of you guys are thinking that I am trying to decide between showing and my attachment to him, and this is not the case. It is more an issue of buying a horse with known issues and a bad attitude rather than spending exponentially more money and going into debt to my parents to buy an unknown horse.

    One issue I actually hadn't considered until someone brought it up was the idea of resale. If I bought him I would most likely never be able to sell him. At most I might be able to lease him out. I know he would be hard to sell because his owner is actually a breeder and has been trying to sell him since he was born to no success. He has also had multiple people come look at him since he has been with him and nobody was really willing to look past his missing eye. So there is no doubt he would be hard if not impossible to sell in the future when he is even older.
    OK thanks for clarifying.

    If you are ok with his attitude/comfortable with his issues then don't worry about it... the issue with this would be a) the other people who need to deal with those things b) extra financial drain due to the issues c)possible flair up of those issues and a and b further down the road.
    You might get hurt if you are attached and something happens, resale isn't an option and you need to put him down etc.

    Due to his issues this horse only may take you so far. You may spend more money on him in the long run than a more expensive horse without issues.

    If you buy him could you have a "give back" option with his breeder? That may be ideal. Basically have a long term free lease.
         
        07-14-2014, 01:03 AM
      #18
    Foal
    It is really a dilemma. I may choose to resale.
         
        07-14-2014, 02:17 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    I'd probably go for it too.
    Sure, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fece, but here is a horse you know, with the abilities you want, at a more than fair price. I would never go into debt over a horse. It's a hobby (at least in my case), and a horse can depreciate from several tens of thoussands of $ to nothing very, very fast. I would not want to take that risk. With this deal you KNOW you won't get ripped off.
    The allergies are really what I'd consider the biggest downside, as in potentially expensive and most likely contributing to the attitude problem. So I'd probably invest some of the purchase price that you are saving into getting them diagnosed and treated properly.

    Other than that - all the best with him and here's to a successful showing career for you two :)
         
        07-14-2014, 08:23 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    My trainer was thinking that we could use these next few months while I am deciding to try him on some different things, for example hormones for his attitude and we are looking at some smartpaks to help with his allergies. We think we can get a pretty good handle on his issues. We did back to back shows this weekend both my first time at 2'9", and got Champion the first day and Reserve the second day. So that definitely put me in a good mood with him :P
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