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    11-30-2012, 10:10 PM
  #1
Foal
Horse rescue FRAUD -rant-

WEll.. I used to vollenteer at this rescue. After being there a year and a half, I realized what she's all about. Basically shed post adds on craigslist,facebook, equine sites begging for "donations", fences, Tack,building supplies have donation jars everywhere , and use the money to pay for things like her water bill, HER draft horses feed, and beg for vollenteers to care for HER horses. The horses she adopted out For CHEAP were used to buy her horses feed.ect, and she never worked with them. (i did) and when they went to homes she never did a homecheck first. Not to mention she bred horses, cats, chickens whatever could reproduce.. and still to this day contuines to post adds begging for supplies... She gave me a horse for my silence.. But im TIRED of seeing THOSE ads.. She claims she's for the animals but in reality she's a money hungry B that has no intrest trying to operate a rescue.. She doesnt EVEN RIDE or know how to work with them... She asks for hay donations and donations to feed and this and that and 80% of the horses there ARENT rescues! UGH. Should I report this to the cops or let it be? Is this illegal? I know its an odd question.. but the way she makes it come off its not but it doesnt seem right, She was trying to give my horse at the time it was the rescues to a farrier horse trader for trimmings and he's a hot headed arabian who bucks 50% of the time like a bronco but is perfect the other 50% So she has no intrest in the well being of the horse. I asked for him she said no then I talked to the previous owners and told them im perfect for him and they convinced her to let him be mine..
     
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    11-30-2012, 10:26 PM
  #2
Weanling
Tell the police ! It is every ones duty to report criminal activity, and its obvious this lady is a fraud ! You know what to do, just do it.
     
    11-30-2012, 10:38 PM
  #3
Banned
Is she a proper rescue, a 501c3 or just someone who claims to be? That would make the difference in whether her actions are criminal or not.
     
    11-30-2012, 10:45 PM
  #4
Started
I wonder if it's the same rescue down the street from me doing the same thing... -.-'

I run a rescue, well more of a sanctuary, and to be honest it infuriates me to see people like that. Our rescue is a small, local place, we started with the hope of rehabbing and rehoming, we have a few 'permanent fosters' out in the world, but the majority of the horses we ended up with are 'lifers'. They are at the end of their line and for one reason or another can't be rehomed (from unsound, to blind, to neurological). In any other situation they would have been euthanized, but here we let them 'live it out'. We rely on public donations, grants, and volunteer help. But our horses appreciate it all. The woman who runs it all is 63 years old! She is there every day without fail, cleaning all the stalls, turning in and out all the horses, feed, water, fixing things around the barn. I'm there multiple times a week, I used to go every day until I realized I really needed a paying job too xD Both of us are full time volunteers, neither gets paid, we live off our own income, the horses off the donations. We have phases throughout the year of volunteers, kids and adults, some stay - some go. We're kinda run down, but the horses are happy, healthy (to the best of their ability) and safe.

There are people around who claim to be rescues, lesson barns who dub their retired horses 'rescues' in order to get money to support them. There are 'rescues' who are actually more like horse traders, going to auctions and buying horses cheap, sending them to fosters who train them all nice and sell the horses for top dollar. Ever know a rescue horse to sell for $20,000? I know one -.-''. I was infuriated by people like this for a very long time. People who trade horses under the label of 'rescue' so people can feel righteous about buying the horse and tell all their buddies 'my horse is a rescue'.
But then one day it clicked with me. While these people may be scammers, they may be bleeding money out of people, or not really caring about the horses, but whether intentionally or not the horses are getting a second chance. Horses are being taken from auctions and given another shot at finding a home. Horses who would have been euthanized or auctioned when lesson programs can no longer use them can now be supported and allowed to live out their retirement. Whether the intentions are right or not, the horses are being helped. And while it's hard for me to bite my tongue and not yell at people who are 'using the system', the horses are being given another chance and that makes me tolerate this.

I'm assuming you're in the US, I'm not sure the laws in all the states, but I believe you need to have 501c3 status to legally fundraise. Most actual rescues have it, if this woman has it and you care deeply enough you ought to see about challenging her status, especially if she's supporting non-rescues with that money.
There's a new law I heard about, I don't know all the details. But it specifies that horses can only be officially classified as 'rescues' if rescued within the state or maybe country? But it's to force people to 'act locally' rather than buying up the nicest horse from another country and calling it a 'rescue'. Being as there's no clear guidelines as to what makes a horse a rescue it's tough to enforce any laws.
Some people may only call a crippled or diseased horse with a sob story an 'actual' rescue, while others may say 'any horse headed to slaughter', while others may say 'any horse no one else wants'. It's hard to say, but if she's operating outside of the law I hope you do something, people like that are what ruin it for actual rescues.

*steps off her soap box* ^^' sorry
     
    11-30-2012, 10:52 PM
  #5
Foal
No! She claims to have that but they don't she's trying to do it but got denied... I think. I don't know the laws or anything, wish I did.. basically she's using the rescue to support her personal horses she has 2 rescues/ out of 16 horses two of them are boarders..
     
    11-30-2012, 11:13 PM
  #6
Started
That is so infuriating!

I know of one that, while completely legal, is nothing but a tax shelter for several wealthy people. They also like skimming from the grant money they get by having college students to their places for various, minimally useful activities.

I'm not usually in favor of more government regulation, but the only rescues I've seen (less than 10) have all been either like the OP's example or the one I mentioned.

Thieves.
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    11-30-2012, 11:16 PM
  #7
Banned
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Originally Posted by pyrokat555    
no! She claims to have that but they don't she's trying to do it but got denied... I think. I don't know the laws or anything, wish I did.. basically she's using the rescue to support her personal horses she has 2 rescues/ out of 16 horses two of them are boarders..
Then she's not actually a rescue. There are very few rules governing how she runs her business then. If she were a 501c3, it would be easy to go after her - as she is not, then it's not that simple.
     
    11-30-2012, 11:17 PM
  #8
Foal
But how about the donation jars? And begging for money everywhere? That's not illegal?
     
    11-30-2012, 11:21 PM
  #9
Foal
Too bad I can't post her website link on here I just don't want the drama
     
    11-30-2012, 11:24 PM
  #10
Foal
"_______________ Horse Rescue"


We are funded solely by ***** and adoption fees, and we ask for your support by*****, volunteering, adopting or simply by spreading the word about our effort. We work cooperatively with our local sheriff's office and other rescue organizations by providing or trying to locate safe haven for abandoned, neglected and abused animals. We hope you enjoy looking through our photo gallery and reading about our mission (and passion).



________________ Notes:

-__________is ALWAYS in need of hay if you have horse quality hay or can help purchase some please let us know. If you wish to purchase hay directly please contact __________ at _______Tell ___ it is a donation to _____________! Or you can donate directly through our website.
She's in the shoppers,craigslist,FB everywhere I look.
Why can she claim rescue and not be one?
     

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