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    03-10-2012, 08:13 AM
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Many of the old coaching inns sited along the old rural highways in rural Britain retain the hitching rails and hooks for horses and what is more horse riders are welcome.
This particular pub located in the very centre of the village was a originally a coaching house
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It is not the alcohol that matters - it is rather how much drunk at any one time.

The courtyard used originally by the coaching trade has been taken over in recent years for the parking of cars.

If ever one has the opportunity to trail ride in parts of rural Britain - the ride will usually be planned to run from pub to pub where facilities are available to water the horse and to rest the rider's aching backs.

As for tying Joe up with reins off a bit - never . He always wore under the bridle a string halter and we carried a separate lead rope.

You miss the point of my article.
     
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    03-10-2012, 09:30 AM
  #22
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Why do some of you keep saying "colored"? It's the 21st century, how about we use terms that are a bit more educated and a bit less...jim crow?
Oh, and for the record. Animals do not see race. That is a human shortcoming that some choose to pin onto their animals in an attempt to further justfy their own prejudics.
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    03-10-2012, 09:30 AM
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What a gob-smacking and weird story. I can't begin to imagine what was in your mind. Leaving a horse unattended, tied to a lamp-post by it's reins and standing on the public pavement and with access to the road while you go drink alcohol!

Seems common sense isn't so common!
I'm not seeing a huge problem here..

Anywho, I know Dude use to be aggressive towards me at first because I had the body shape similar to his owner's, who he never liked. After he realised I wasn't her in a few minutes he'd be fine. Only happened the first few times for the first few minutes before I actually touched him. Sox would actually come up to me in his stall because something of me (I assume) reminded me of his owner, he would walk up to no one else. He was never aggressive or ram away, just wouldn't be so nice as to walk up when being caught or come over for love in his stall. I usually had the treats that only they got them (owner's were a mother/daughter), so I assume they smelled that and just reacted?

I agree with others about horses not being able to tell (to a certain extent) what race a human/handler is. Different people have different scents. I've noticed that blacks to White generally have a different scent, but that's only because of their choice of what they wash their clothes in, spray they use, etc, not just because of their race, just what they generally choose.
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    03-10-2012, 09:39 AM
  #24
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I think it's plausible but the scent explanation is more likely.

I have one that doesn't like palomino (or other very light colored horses). Hondo was kicked by a pally mare when he was first used at stud when he was young. Still to this day, 25 years later he is terrified of light colored horses. I can recall riding him in a HUS class and passing a pally, I could feel him tremble and it was all I could do to keep him from trucking it across the arena to get away. He wouldn't cover any light colored mares after that but would gladly cover any other, it was a real pain to have to AI every palomino, grey, buckskin. If I bring Lacey (grey) in the barn, if he is in his stall he goes to the back corner and "hides" or goes back outside to get away.

I think it's possible. I've met horses with aversions to many different things because of experiences in their past, they generally don't forget. I'd want to know that horse's history though before making that call.
     
    03-10-2012, 09:48 AM
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It's anecdotal evidence at best, but I knew a mare who was TERRIFIED of Hispanic men.
Which "hispanic" men?

This one?



Or this one?
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    03-10-2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry Godden    
Many of the old coaching inns sited along the old rural highways in rural Britain retain the hitching rails and hooks for horses and what is more horse riders are welcome.
This particular pub located in the very centre of the village was a originally a coaching house
All really interesting and actually coaching is something I know a lot about.

However things have changed since the 1800's when Coaching or Staging Inns became redundant.

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It is not the alcohol that matters - it is rather how much drunk at any one time.
I'd say that it's the fact you left a horse unattended for such a trivial reason that mattered!

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The courtyard used originally by the coaching trade has been taken over in recent years for the parking of cars.
The photo clearly shows the horse standing on a path and in the road and with cars travelling by. NOT a courtyard at all. It's a street.

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If ever one has the opportunity to trail ride in parts of rural Britain - the ride will usually be planned to run from pub to pub where facilities are available to water the horse and to rest the rider's aching backs.
I've lived in rural England all my life and have owned equestrian centres for more than 40 years. I NEVER have been on a ride from pub to pub yet!

I'm well aware that "some" places run tourist rides and take in a pub but they always have someone in attendance for the horses and they don't tie them and leave them alone at lamp posts.

IF they did then they'd be breaching the terms of their Riding Establishment's Licence.

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As for tying Joe up with reins off a bit - never . He always wore under the bridle a string halter and we carried a separate lead rope.
I couldn't see that in the photo.
     
    03-10-2012, 10:01 AM
  #27
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We had a horse with the same problem.

Years ago, my parents invited Arthur's old trainer over to ride. He happened to be a black man, and their MFT gelding flipped over on him when he went to mount and broke his nose. He would not let the man get anywhere near him. At the fun shows my mom took him to, the announcer was black, and the horse would go insane every time they went by the announcers booth.
     
    03-10-2012, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by arrowsaway    
why do some of you keep saying "colored"? It's the 21st century, how about we use terms that are a bit more educated and a bit less...jim crow?
Oh, and for the record. Animals do not see race. That is a human shortcoming that some choose to pin onto their animals in an attempt to further justfy their own prejudics.
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I know there is North America, and South America, so why the term African Americans?

Aren't the people who live on this continent all Americans, and aren't the people who were born here "Native Americans"?

I dislike labels. Adjectives are the descriptive words used in English language to describe something or some person. They are one among the eight parts of speech. Adjectives are added to nouns to describe the colour, number and kind. The sentences are made very clear by adding these descriptive adjectives. They help in identifying or quantifying the words. Adjective always precedes a noun or pronoun. It can be even modified with adverb, phrase or a clause.

Thus, white person, black person etc would be correct IMO.
     
    03-10-2012, 10:25 AM
  #29
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I also dislike labels and stereotypes and jumping to conclusions on the basis of such.

Horses do not judge by ethnicity or colour.
     
    03-10-2012, 10:37 AM
  #30
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I trained horses for a short time at the county fairgrounds near my home and there were two women that kept horses there as well. They were both openly gay but one of them was the "man" of the relationship. She could send a horse to the otherside of the arena or the end of the leadrope faster than any person I've ever met. Her girlfriend however got along very well with all the horses. Since they lived together and ate together I'd think thier smell was similar. They had similar hair and skin color but the more butch of the two was a large framed gal. I'm not sure what it was about her but NO horse liked her very much. The couples own horses tolerated her but were never at ease.

As far as AC's racial sensitivity goes I think he's relating a story that happened the way he told it. African Americans generally have dark COLORED skin so refering to them as colored is more accurate than assuming they came from africa since most can trace thier families back several generations in this country. I think it's funny that some of you are taken aback by the fact that the black guy could really dance. Most of them can! It's an ethnic stereotype for a reason. As far as why the horse didn't like him I can only guess but I once walk from the sun into a dark barn where there were two black guys of about the same size and I couldn't see ANY facial features for several minutes. If it hadn't been for the fact that one had a red chicago bulls hat on and the other had a black one on I couldn't have told them apart. I can see how a horse would see the same thing and be put off of it a little. To be honest I found it a little creepy myself.
     

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