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        02-07-2013, 12:04 AM
      #11
    Foal
    Okay, disheartening was a poor choice of wording to say the least. I'm sorry for that. I understand exactly what starvation is and entails. I understand that it being quicker doesn't prolong the suffering. But let me at least ask you guys this, you are AT LEAST slightly bothered by the practices used in the slaughter houses... correct?
         
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        02-07-2013, 12:04 AM
      #12
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by daviskryan    
    I do agree, starvation, neglect, etc is JUST as disgusting and incredibly disheartening. That being said, I find no advantage to horse slaughter. It too is inhumane.
    I don't see how slaughter is anymore inhumane than slowly starving to death. For us who have not been starved for long periods of time, we don't know how painful that really is. Starving to death takes a long time, whereas slaughter takes much less time. I have expressed this on another anti slaughter thread, I would rather send my horses to slaughter than let them sit in a field starving.

    I feel that the person who emailed you covered a lot of points. You can't look at slaughter as an evil thing. Imagine how man cruelty cases there would if there was no slaughter. Yes, some kill houses could change how they go about it, but without it, there would be hundreds of more horses sitting out in fields hungry.

    Ontario's horse industry has taken a bit of a landslide, with the price of hay this year, there are a lot of people who can't afford to keep their horses. People can't afford to buy anymore, either. Nor can rescues take in much horses because of how many they have right now. What are these people supposed to do? Let these horses starve because they can't feed them anymore? Any rational person would see slaughter as a necessary option.
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        02-07-2013, 12:05 AM
      #13
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by daviskryan    
    Hmmm, seriously? Please explain why one would be pro-horse slaughter?
    I've had horses all of my life, and I am pro slaughter. Most people here are.

    Before I learned a little about it, I was against it, now I am very pro.

    Lots of reasons:
    Financially there needs to be a bottom price to the market, without that it devalues all horses.

    The Mexico and Canadian plants closed for a short while towards the end of last year, in that time, CL was inundated with free horse ads. What becomes of these horses?

    Many people have had unwanted horses dumped in their pasture.

    It's expensive to dispose of a horse's carcass. Many people who cannot afford to feed their horses, how would they pay for the death/disposal?

    What would you like to happen to all the horses at auctions who are selling for $20-30? There are not enough homes available. I bought my horse for $2k, that was the smallest of my costs, without vets bills, he costs me $500 a month. It's not possible for me to take on any more horses, nor do I want a low end horse even if I won the lottery.

    Do you have the income/space/resources needed to rehome the 100 or so horses that probably go through your local auction every week? Probably not, so what happens to these horses?

    If I had my way, I'd have a slaughter plant next door to every auction. That way the horses would not be shipped a long distance and it would be quick.

    It's nice to have a save every horsey attitude but it's not realistic.
         
        02-07-2013, 12:07 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by daviskryan    
    Okay, disheartening was a poor choice of wording to say the least. I'm sorry for that. I understand exactly what starvation is and entails. I understand that it being quicker doesn't prolong the suffering. But let me at least ask you guys this, you are AT LEAST slightly bothered by the practices used in the slaughter houses... correct?
    Do you eat beef?

    I have heard that killing a cow with the current methods is mechanically more accurate than horse slaughter, though I am not sure if this is true or not.
    However:

    We've all heard/seen the horror stories with cow slaughter.

    So are you against cow slaughter? Or does horse slaughter just bother you because they are HORSES?
         
        02-07-2013, 12:11 AM
      #15
    Foal
    Thank you for a well thought out answer, AlexS. I do appreciate that, and I might add that it brings up some better points than the "over 1000 jobs been lost in the US" statement in the e-mail.

    So lets say slaughter houses do need to exist, that still leaves us with the inhumane treatment in which the slaughter houses go about the killing. Not to mention the days and weeks leading up to the slaughter.
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        02-07-2013, 12:15 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by daviskryan    
    So lets say slaughter houses do need to exist, that still leaves us with the inhumane treatment in which the slaughter houses go about the killing. Not to mention the days and weeks leading up to the slaughter.
    Except, not all of them are like that. Look at some of the WHW footage, you'll see hay and water buckets in those trucks headed to slaughter houses. You need to seek out the houses that do have ill treatment, instead of vilifying them all.
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        02-07-2013, 12:17 AM
      #17
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by daviskryan    
    36 Hours to Hell - YouTube Please check this out and tell me slaughter is humane...
    Please, posting PETA videos are not going to help your "cause". PETA and the such are nothing but a bunch of uneducated terrorists using celebrities to promote their BS.
         
        02-07-2013, 12:21 AM
      #18
    Foal
    COWCHICK77, who cares what you THINK the video is about or WHO produced it. Did you watch it? Regardless of whether you think there should or shouldn't be slaughter houses; as BornToRun so generously pointed out, this PARTICULAR slaughter house has VERY inhumane practices. It is very difficult to say otherwise...
         
        02-07-2013, 12:26 AM
      #19
    Yearling
    *head desk*

    Dieing hurts, ok? It just does. Your organs shut down. Your body cramps. You are in pain 24/7. It is agonizing. To a starving horse who's body is shutting down, a bolt to the head is a happy ending. To a horse who is riddled with disease, has broken bones, open and infected wounds and NO ONE to care for it, a knock to the skull is much needed relief.

    Healthy horses go to slaughter. Hurt horses go to slaughter. The one thing they have in common is that nobody wants them and nobody wants to care for them. Nobody. Absolutely no one. No food for them. No facilities to hold them. They are unwanted. They need somewhere to go, so we have slaughter.

    And believe me, death is a happy ending to a lot of those horses.
         
        02-07-2013, 12:27 AM
      #20
    Trained
    Actually who produced has quite a bit to do with it.
         

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