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        02-07-2013, 12:36 AM
      #31
    Green Broke
    I am pro-slaughter because I feel it is a necessary evil. Not any different than dog pounds. Most dogs are put to sleep because of the overabundance.

    Slaughter houses are not the problem. They are the result. If there wasn't so many horses out there that something has to be done. The real problem is at the other end or really the beginning: over breeding. IF there was a way to control breeding, less horses and less need for slaughter houses. However, I don't see a change in regulating breeding.
         
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        02-07-2013, 12:42 AM
      #32
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by usandpets    

    Slaughter houses are not the problem. They are the result. If there wasn't so many horses out there that something has to be done. The real problem is at the other end or really the beginning: over breeding. IF there was a way to control breeding, less horses and less need for slaughter houses. However, I don't see a change in regulating breeding.
    A few of them are here on this board, and use the place to advertise their breeding stock, while not paying for advertising because it's a look at my pretty horse thread. A few for color, and another for the most amazing horse breed in the world.

    It's bothersome.
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        02-07-2013, 06:55 AM
      #33
    Showing
    The hypocrisy and arrogance shown by the rabid anti horse slaughter people are staggering. I noticed the OP completely ignored the question about whether or not he consumes meat. I'll lay odds he does, along with wearing and using leather on occasion. How is it okay to kill other animals for food, clothing and tools, but not horses? They're as much livestock as cattle.

    OP, I don't know why you thought coming on this forum and proclaiming how anti horse slaughter you are would earn you laurels and kudos. The majority of horse owners are intelligent, rational adults who understand that not every horse is wanted, and instead of slobbing hyperbole and horror over the slaughter fate of these animals, they understand that this is a solution. Not a perfect one to be sure, but one no more horrific than what myriads of other animals go through on a daily basis.

    You wanted people to agree with you, which is why you specifically posted the 'mean' e-mail. Since we didn't fall all over ourselves with shock and outrage over it, you've decided to take your ball and go home. I suggest you don't try the same thing again, unless you specifically go to an anti horse slaughter site. Otherwise, you'll find that the majority of horse foruns are filled with the same type of people you found here. We know better than city people the plight of the horse in modern society, but we're also pragmatic, level headed, and understand that what others do LEGALLY with their own animals is their business, not ours.

    If you don't want your horse going to slaughter, don't send it there. However, you don't get to dictate to others what they can or cannot do with theirs, as long as it falls within legal parameters.
         
        02-07-2013, 07:53 AM
      #34
    Started
    I'm always amused that PETA took video that was made by USDA inspectors who were building cases against unethical slaughter houses, edit the video, pretend they (PETA) are the savior of the noble horse and that they invested the money and effort into bringing this to light, and make money off it.
         
        02-07-2013, 08:17 AM
      #35
    Super Moderator
    All any videos have ever done for me is to convince me that we need well-run, inspected equine processing facilities no farther than 500 miles apart. They should all have feedlots set up close by and the feeding and care and processing all need to be monitored by responsible people (not people with an agenda).

    For all the completely anti-slaughter people, I ask the same thing.

    No matter what we do, there are always going to be 100,000 to 400,000 horses per year that are completely UNWANTED. What do YOU propose to do with them that is doable, practical and can be done today? Since many horses live to be 30 years old plus with good care, how do YOU propose to make over a million horses disappear in 3 or 4 years. Think how many it will be in 10 years.

    Ranchers are slaughtering cattle they intended to save for breeding because they cannot afford to find feed for them. The cattle herd in the US is smaller than it has been since they started keeping records. Within 2-3 years, beef will be double in price or more. Where do think the feed will come from for millions of 'useless horses'.

    What would YOU do with them all today?
         
        02-07-2013, 09:59 AM
      #36
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by daviskryan    
    Hmmm, seriously? Please explain why one would be pro-horse slaughter?
    Because If the US dosen't slaughter our own horses they go to canada and mexico for slaughter. The same number of US horses are processed no matter if its legal here or not. Our slaughter methods are far better than mexicos and why make a horse take an extra long trip for a more painful death.

    Its really that simple.
    If you have the money and time by all means save the horses you can, but understand that its better for everyone if we kill our own horses.
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        02-07-2013, 10:08 AM
      #37
    Trained
    I agree with IRaceBarrels. I support slaughter in the US because I trust the inspectors here & regulation here more so than Mexico, and I think much of the hardship from slaughter comes from the transport.

    I'm not thrilled about slaughter, but I'd prefer it done locally, under regulation.
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        02-07-2013, 10:12 AM
      #38
    Yearling
    This subject has been beat to death...Humans are the fault of excess horses, so what are the answers? I hope I am never in a position to have to send mine to slaughter. I understand the need though. I do believe if slaughter is banned in the US, it should be truly banned by not allowing horses to be exported to slaughter elsewhere. By banning slaughter, eventually will it cause people to think twice about breeding/owning horses due to them not having an out? I would think so but I am probably wrong, humans can be selfish. Am I pro slaughter? I am on the fence with it and all slaughter should be regulated.

    Sometimes I think certain humans should be regulated....
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        02-07-2013, 10:19 AM
      #39
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    Quite a few people have made comments about PETA without really explaining them, I will try. If you are still reading...

    PETA claims to collect money for local shelters, they don't. They don't outright saw it, it's implied, but the shelters don't see that money.

    They believe that riding horses is cruel, and horses should be wild. Many of us here have a problem with that. Obviously some horse riders are cruel, most are not. We love our horses, they are our passion and we often put ourselves into hardship to care for them.


    Many years ago my local PETA broke into a place that had foxes for fur coats. They released all of the foxes who decimated the local wildlife, as that number of foxes were not meant to be in that community. Foxes are rather evil animals, if they get into a hen house, they kill every hen before taking the one they want for their meal. It was really rough on all the wildlife, and it took time for it to recover.

    PETA is not how they present themselves as being.
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        02-07-2013, 12:41 PM
      #40
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by goneriding    
    This subject has been beat to death...Humans are the fault of excess horses, so what are the answers? I hope I am never in a position to have to send mine to slaughter. I understand the need though. I do believe if slaughter is banned in the US, it should be truly banned by not allowing horses to be exported to slaughter elsewhere. By banning slaughter, eventually will it cause people to think twice about breeding/owning horses due to them not having an out? I would think so but I am probably wrong, humans can be selfish. Am I pro slaughter? I am on the fence with it and all slaughter should be regulated.

    Sometimes I think certain humans should be regulated....
    Exactly, my problem with it all is we all have different opinions on it so why can't some just drop it and move on. You can say what you want about Peta and other organizations but people are going to believe what they want to believe.

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive. " IMO we are not surviving we are destroying, that problem is people and sadly everything else suffers.
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