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post #2081 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 05:05 AM
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I think that teaching to accept a bit is a good idea in any case, if only the horse has no dental issues that would make him better of without a bit at all. We never know how our lives might turn out and I better want my horse educated for different kinds of tack, just in case.

If Nyx hasn't been ridden in a bitless bridle yet, I'd suggest starting in a sidepull or a rope halter. As far as I've seen, they are easier to understand for a young horse. Sidepulls are like simple snaffles of the bitless world, but hackamores are generally more like curb bits and they can't be used with direct reining mostly. By the way, rope halters have more bite to them as soft sidepulls. :) Also, I prefer sidepulls with soft nosebands and chinstraps, not those with curb chains and stiff nosebands. Those are more restricting and unforgiving.

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post #2082 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 05:12 AM
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Hmm thanks saranda!! She does great at flexing and turning her head with just a halter. I might try driving her with a rope halter and see how she responds to that! :)
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post #2083 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 05:15 AM
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Snickers has been driven and pulled logs only in a rope halter in his life - I plan to trying out a sidepull for driving this week. But the rope halter does great for him and I think Nyx will like it, too. :)

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post #2084 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 08:46 AM
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Nyx, just a comment on your color changing horse I don't know what the weather is like near you, but since we've started having cooler nights, I've noticed that Mellzy is starting to get a bit of her winter coat, which is a much lighter color than her normal coat. It could be as simple as that. I also have a haffy gelding that was born very dark, but got a little lighter every spring when he'd shed out until we got rid of him. Don't know if he's still getting lighter or if it eventually stopped. But i'm sure the color experts can give you some insight.

Also, Mellzy has been doing great in her training. Have to talk to BO about borrowing her "training" saddle to see how she reacts to moving with a saddle on her back. oh, and those braids didn't look near as nice when I came back the next day.
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post #2085 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 08:57 AM
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Saranda - Every hack I've ever seen will be more harsh than your current side pull. If he goes good in the sidepull and just needs refining I would continue to work in the sidepull until he reaches the point you would like. It is just like adding a harsher bit. Now I did do that with Lizzy when she wasn't listening but we have sucessfully gone back to the snaffle for arena work. Sometimes it works for the horses that are able to transition back down but sometimes it backfires. For how well you do already I wouldn't switch.

WIrider - The braids in the mane never stay, they like to watch you get upset over all the hard work that they just ruined lol. Does she grow a good winter coat? There's a tb at our barn that I guess can't go without a blanket as she never grows a thick winter coat.

So Lizzy decided the best plan of action yesterday while trying to halter her was to slowly stick her nose out until she touched the fence. I told her not to do it but like a kid that has to rebel she touched it. I heard the crack and she went flying backwards lol. Maybe she will learn for next time when I tell her not to do something.
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post #2086 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 10:53 AM
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Haha,silly Lizzy! My girls respect the electric fence well,but it's uncanny how they know whenever it's off or not working properly.That's when they push their luck.. I used to have this crazy warmblood mare who was a psycho when it came to hot fences though. No matter how many times she got shocked,she was always trying to reach through or climb over them. Of course she would get zapped,then she would proceed to whirl around and start kicking at the fence!! She ended up getting caught in it more than once.I got sick of constantly fixing fence and doctoring her cuts really fast..She was a complete nut case,in more ways then one,that mare!
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Haha, I think Lizzy just has a facination with white things. She's always reaching for white fences, be it wood, plastic or electric. I got zapped the other week, not even sure how I did it. It got me right on my hip/butt area. I was filling a water trough and I thought I was far enough away. Took a second to realize what happened, it hurt for the next few hours.

I don't think I could deal with a horse that was always getting tangled in the fence, they are a pain to fix.
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post #2088 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 11:32 AM
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I don't know if she'll grow out a good winter coat or not. This is my first winter around her. I am pretty sure her previous owner put a blanket on her, but I don't know if that was out of necessity, or just because she had the blanket so figured she'd use it. I'll have to ask. I was hoping the braids would make it through at least a couple days. I have noticed that her hair is really dry and staticy.

Do any of your horses have really dry mane and tail? what kind, if any, coditioner do you use? Never really had an issue with the horses growing up. They didn't need anything all year, just usually conditioned them before a show. Any suggestions?
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Hello everyone :) New to the board!

I started riding when I was about 9, and stopped around age 12. Took lessons, did shows, got bucked off what seems like everytime lol. My parents bought me & my sister a horse, which is actually why I stopped riding believe it or not.

They bought the horse from our instructor, who had just gotten it on the farm, and had only been used as a lesson horse a few times. Fast forward a bit, I was young, he was young...and we just weren't a match. He was spookey and you could tell from his mannerisms that he had been abused. It was awful. He was terrified of my dad and the farrier...and just men in general. I loved to watch him and brush him and love him, but hated to ride him...I was terrified and it really killed my confidence and I didn't ride because of it.

We gave him to a farm that worked with abused horses, and he made great progress and have heard that he is doing well

Anyway, last week (12 years later!!) I took a lesson on a great, slow mare. She was perfect for my first ride in so long and really gave me some of my confidence back! We walked & trotted and my new instructor told me that I had great form for being out of riding so long...which gave me even more confidence! Yay! I have another lesson tonight so I hope it goes just as well
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post #2090 of 3149 Old 09-17-2012, 11:45 AM
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WIRider - Lizzy and all the horses have staticy manes and tails. I wet the hair then put human conditioner in it and leave it. I usually use the suave stuff that costs .96 cents at walmart. Lizzy can get about 4 days out of braids in her hair and her tail braid will stay 2 weeks usually before I have to redo it. And yes I braid that stupid tail because otherwise she shoots liquid poo into it during trail rides lol.

I'm on the hunt for winter blankets. I have one heavy one Lizzy gets during January-Feb. She grows a good coat but being a hard keeper I'm not taking chances.
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