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So the young whippersnapper teenagers :)-P) get their own forum, and the mature folk over 40 get their own thread so I thought I'd make one for us 20-somethings.

So how goes the 20-somethings on this here Horse Forum?

I guess I should introduce myself as I'm a serial ninja member just reading and not posting. The name is Jess, I live in Australia and have dressage lessons once a week. I study psychology and have been riding "properly" since I was 19. One day, preferably before pension age, I hope to own my own horse. Alas, it's not the right time now.

Discuss dreams, vent, celebrate achievements and all things in between!
 
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Thanks!
God I wish I could live at home again pay no rent and have the horses out my window!!

Im on stingy apprentice wages and have to be very tight with my money to afford to rent pay bills fuel and look after nyx. Plus save on top of that, I think I do quiet well.

Gets up my nose when people my age who live at hom and only work a part time job are always asking me why I dont have more money and asking me to go out like every weekend and when I explain I cant they get all snobby.. So fusterating but it really sorts out your real friends...

Im the type of person who could just stay at home with my animals and have no social interaction at all (except with my boyfriend) for ages. I dont know what it is but I guess im just not a people person unless they share the same interest in animals as me lol. Im a weirdo
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So many of my friends complained to no end about their living situation. About how much they hated living at home etc, even into their 20s. I told them to just move out and they always said that it cost too much, even they were on more money than I've ever gotten.

But like many of you on here, I think its all about budgeting. I choose not to spend my money on the things they spend theirs on. If they chose to spend their money on rent, they could live out of home too. It's so silly, people expect to have EVERYTHING, and complain when they don't. Its about priorities. If you want it, do it, but if other things come first obviously its not so important so don't complain about it.

It annoys me the whole "I wish I could live out of home, I wish I could travel, I wish I could have horse" when I tell people about my life. Then they call me lucky. And sure I'm lucky to an extent, I'm lucky I was born into a good country where you can get free education and decent wages, but they have just the same amount of luck. The choices I make give me the life that I want, not some random lucky draw.

I think I might have thesis topic. So hopefully I do and then I can start studying more.

And I saw the cutest little kitten! I want a kitten so bad! I seriously almost bought it.
 
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I have seriously considered getting one for a while :-(

The only thing that is stopping me is that I am not sure if this is where I am going to stay. I'd be allowed to have a cat here, and I can afford one, and it would be a great friend for my dog but if, actually when, I move it might make things a lot harder.

I don't even know if I am going to stay in the mountains. Its not how I thought it would be, everything is so expensive, there is so much traffic and tourists, and basically no sense of community. The horse and housing situation is pretty tricky, and its close to my family, but they're not really making much of an effort either.

On Friday I am going to look up at Lithgow but I don't know.

Any Aussies have any ideas of somewhere to live, reasonably affordable, horse-y, within an hour or two of sydney/blue mountains (but not in Sydney)? With a bit of work?

Anyway thats why I am not getting a kitten. But I really want that kitten. I'm not even sure anymore. Do you think it would be a lot harder to find a place if I have a cat and a dog, instead of just a dog?
 
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Any Aussies have any ideas of somewhere to live, reasonably affordable, horse-y, within an hour of sydney/blue mountains (but not in Sydney)?
South western Sydney is the only place I can think of... I was planning on moving out to Liverpool before the whole Melbourne move thing came up. Do you have a car or do you rely on public transport? SWS does have some horsey places but you'd need a car to get to them. I can't drive so am limited to stuff that is a reasonable distance from a bus stop or train station.
 
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I have a car, but I really don't like cities. I kind of like places with a sense of community but whenever I am in Syd all I see is traffic, which was why I was sort of trying to avoid it.

I don't know though.

I'm just confused, I want to live near my family but the places they live just are not feasible to me, or if they are feasible they're just not the life I want :-(
 
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And now for something random. Snickers managed to break his bucked - it's one of those rubbery, elastic type of buckets - and now I have to get him a new one. Ugh. Lasted for about a month or so... He likes to interact with different objects so much that it's dangerous for the poor buckets, brushes, salt lick holders, and so on!
 
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Haha yes technically I am in that generation. But my parents made me work for everything. I wanted an ice cream cone, well I had better do something for it.

Since my college requires online discussions for my online classes we did intros this week. It is amazing how many people said I was "brave" for taking a full course load with full time work. Um well I'm not spending 10 years in school and I haven't found a volunteer to pay my bills so... looks like I might actually have to work hard...hmmm funny how that works.

When I was at registration they highly discouraged people to take 12 credits will working full time, seriously? That's 4 classes, it can be done. One advisor was getting upset at a grown lady who was going to go back to school full time while working full time, she already had a bs in nursing, yea I'm pretty sure she knows what she can handle. What happened to responsibility? Jeesh, if I take all these classes I guess I better do them huh.

And yes somebody has to lose. If you lose enough maybe you will start working harder. Remember when kids used to point and laugh at the kids that lost, where are those losers now? Oh yea they probably work at NASA or something equally important.

Haha Snickers, he just likes to play he is still a kid afterall.
 
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They actually discourage people from taking a full class schedule while working full time? No one even ever warned me about that. Granted, I didn't have a full time job, but I had 3 part time jobs and worked about 36 hours a week, with an 18 credit course load.

A friend of mine just finished her nursing degree. Went to school full time, worked in the ER full time, and raised 3 boys. ANd on top of all that, she's a BeautiControl rep, and plays in an ultimate frisbee league. Yes, her husband helped, but even so, that's a lot of stuff going on in one person's life.

And my sister in law can barely handle her part time job and getting her kid to and from school. Some people...

Saranda - my brother has a haffy gelding that does the same thing. If he can get his teeth on it, he's going to pull on it. Hopefully they grow out of that.
 
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Yeah, he's just a kid and actually I hope that he will not grow out of it - it's just so fun to watch and it proves his interest in the surroundings, and also his sharp mind, because he often thinks a new use to common things. :D Chewing on them, pulling them, pressing them, pawing them, throwing them around... At least he has stopped taking some random stuff in his mouth on the trails and then bringing it home during all the trail ride. That applied to plastic bottles, branches, any larger vegetation, and so on. He'd stop with the rider, get a hold on the desired object, and then proceed trotting happily. :D

That bucket was supposed to be hard to break, though... Oh well.
 
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Yeap, very highly discouraged. But I had to take this smart measure assesment thingy which basically asks questions about how you plan on handling life and very basic knowledge of terms and what not. Well I scored way way above average, which is really really sad. So maybe kids these days can't handle all that. Eventually they will have to learn so why not just throw them in it. They will learn quickly if they want to survive.

I'm only taking 13 credits this semester because I felt like I should ease into it without exhausting myself. I guess most people still find that crazy...

But speaking of school I best go read some books before anybody gets into work here.
 
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I applied to a couple of online study courses to ease my lust for knowledge and learning, lol. Hope they go well. Two are due to start in the beginning of 2013, and one - this November. Not advertising now or anything, but it seems that www.coursera.org is a good resource for free online studies, at least, I find this chance exciting. :)
 
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I know at my university they'll only let you do two classes if you're enrolled in distance education unless you specifically apply for more.

Actually last semester I actually experienced this sort of mindset. A full time course load is four classes at my uni and its quite difficult to get them to allow you to do more so its pretty much the standard. Anyway I made some friends with a new group of people and many of them were only doing 3 classes. I was really rather shocked to find that the reason they did this was because they felt four was too many, and too stressful. Many of these people were unemployed. I could not believe that they were going to university full time yet were unable to do a full time course load, something which I've never had a problem with.

It really isn't that much, four classes. You don't even have to show up, you do pretty much either two essays per class, or one essay and an exam. It's easy. I could not believe that these people would not even do four classes - how would they ever cope in the real world?

Saying all that, I don't ever particularly want to work full time. I plan on becoming a high school teacher which, while it does require some out of school work, is more flexible with hours, and has some great holidays. And the hours it does require are ones I think I'd be happy to do. I know I'd get more money working more hours, but for the last 5 years I've been getting by on $250 a week, a part-time proper job would get me about double that which I'd be more than happy to live on. I'd rather live in worse houses and drive old cars than spend my life working. People might call me lazy but I've always seen money as a tool to live my life, I don't want my life to become about the pursuit of it, that kind of ruins the whole point.

I've seen how when people make more money, they spend more money.
 
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Good for you for being a teacher. The world needs good teachers, especially in high school. You are right about how people who make more money, spend more money. In my opinion, enjoying your job and your life are more important than how much money you make. Luckily I found a job I like that pays well :D
 
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Saranda it's always good to keep learning.

Saskia here in the states most people cannot live on a part time job. I only buy what I have to to get by and even then I'm cutting it close. My health care alone costs me $270 a month and that's not including any extra prescriptions or larger bills. I can't afford my allergy medication that works best since it costs $109 a month. Add in my bus fare and taxes and I'm losing $1200 a month to deductions. Now add in student loans for my classes.
 
#1,667 ·
Move here, poppy! A lot of people on here would call it socialism but we've got a universal healthcare system and insurance, a decent welfare system (could be improved) and you don't have to pay off your student loan til you're earning over $45k a year (or something like that). And a well designed tax system too.

Even some of the wildlife is friendly. Sometimes. :-p
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Well I earn almost that now and after a degree certainly more. I do not believe in Socialism in the least. The problem with our healthcare does not lie in the system itself but in the insurance companies. And the outrageous costs of health care which is driven up by insurance companies, it's a vicious cycle that will never end.

My mother is a CPA (certified public accountant) and I have relatives that have lived in many countries. Don't even get me started on the tax system. There is not a single tax system out there that is the end all be all. Each one has its faults some more than others. I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for and you get what you work for.

I haven't found any particular political position to be what I believe in, yes I fit into a certain catagory but there are still things I do not believe in with that as well. There is no government that is perfect. You can give me every type and I will find you at least a few faults with each.

Sometimes I want to buy an island and start my own country.
 
#1,671 ·
socialism is something most people like if you dont give it a label =P

i survive on a part time job. but i also took time off school and worked 50-60hr weeks and saved like crazy. i am also still under my dads health insurance because i am a full time student and unmarried.
 
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I have studied socialism, I don't care what it is called. But like I said you will not find a system without faults. Even Democracy failed in the greatest sense in WI just a few short months ago.

I moved to far away from my moms health insurance provider so I cannot be covered. My dad does not have health insurance and I am not married so I cannot be on my bf's insurance. I have insurance, but without going into a huge political rant, it is simply the best my company can offer at this time. I am hoping in the near future things can be turned around.

There hasn't been a system that has worked yet. Look at Greece and most of Europe. They are trying to become us while we are trying to become them. Neither system in the current state works.
 
#1,673 ·
Socialism is a system of social ownership. I.E, no privatel property or ownership. So, if you want to start a business and reap the profits, too bad, it has to be shared, so that it is social owned. But that leans more toward the marxist beliefs and there is a widely varying set of economic and political beliefs that are umbrellad by the term "socialism".

Poppy, I assume you are referring to the whole thing with trying to remove Walker from office. That my dear, is democracy in it's truest form. Someone had an idea that he shouldn't be in office, so it was put to a vote. True democracy really is a governement of the people, by the people, and for the people. What we have now is a *******ization of democracy where political officials have more power than was originally intended. And personally, I'm for Walker. I think he did what needed to be done. I think his biggest mistake was not doing enough to inform the public of why he did what he did.

And now, I apologize. I usually try to stay out of political debates on internet forums because I have a habit of upsetting people. So, sorry for that and I'll get off my soap box now.
 
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Oh, and no system works perfectly because no system can account for the human element. There will always be greed, payoffs, and backdoor treaties within governments. There will always be corruption within the system, which isn't the fault of the system, but the fault of the people.

Ok, now I'm really done
 
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Haha I was more referring to how the process went about. They got upset because they lost so formed a recall. There was nothing illegal done to warrant a recall. And that taxpayer money was spent for a recall that really had no basis. That is what really got me. If they wanted a recall when nothing was done to warrant it, pay for it yourself. If they are going to take my darned money they better use it wisely. And yes I was still a taxpayer of WI last year. Had to pay those suckers money come April 15 this year.

I think he did a wonderful job of informing the public but unfortunately there are those that only hear what they want to. Me and my dad get into very very long arguments on the subject since we have very opposing views on the matter.
 
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