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        07-14-2013, 03:35 PM
      #11481
    Trained
    Hi everyone good to read everyones stories
    Sorry I don`t have any stories yet

    Just hard with hubby not working
         
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        07-14-2013, 04:21 PM
      #11482
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NickerMaker71    
    OIL???? Like vegetable oil? Did you give grain too? Did you start out with a small amount of oil? Tell me more please...I'm intruqued.

    Added another loop to our trail system today with the help of my mom! She's a work horse! We also got the trails cleared enough now that both horses and ATVs can use them!!
    No grain. Beet pulp pellets soaked, alfalfa with oil (start out with 1/4 cup and up it every other day) and free choice hay. For a supplement I use one with 30% fat by purina, called Amplify. I still do the amplify and beet pulp but no oil and only a flake of alfalfa in the winter. I used corn oil but you hear good and bad on what kind of oil to use. Something about throwing off the omega fatty acids or something but I had no problem at all. He is a chunk now.
         
        07-14-2013, 04:54 PM
      #11483
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stan    
    I did a cut and past and now my point of view but first are you paying for lessons if so, my responce is this. First find another barn that you can go to if required.

    Next time she has a nasty word to say, respond with. I and people like me pay you to teach us how to ride. You are not doing your job. You are fired. I would then confront the barn owner and complain.

    You are not to be treated or talked to in that manner. This young person would not last 10 seconds where I live. Also, the horse they put you on is sick. If there is a vet report on the horse, I would also point out she is putting you on an unsound horse and that places you in danger. Should she say she has ridden the horse a couple of weeks ago. Hand her the rains and tell her to demonstrate amoungst all of the other horses, how to hold it back.

    Then remind her she is being paid to teach and that requires demonstration.

    Finally I'm rising 65 and your problem annoyed me. I would have told her infront of every one else I am paying for lessons. Don't you ever talk to me in that manner again, and I would stand my ground. She is not an instructer she is a bully. You will do better moving to a new barn but after you dump on her.

    Cheers.
    Stan, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    I do want to clear something up first though: the horse with diabetes is always under vet's care - this is a university that teaches equine and animal studies including all livestock plus pre vet. The animals are beautifully, lovingly and routinely cared for and they're monitored. This particular horse gets himself into trouble because (like many diabetics of all species) he can be a terrible glutton. They had controlled his diabetes until this spring when he started gorging on spring grass, which I've been told is much richer and sweeter. The lyme may have shown up as it did because of his blood count. He'll be retested within a few weeks to see if he's stabilized. The treatment for Lyme will occur only if it turns out he has it for sure and that it's so extreme it requires treatment.

    The young lady in question is probably about 20 or so, a senior in this university, so I guess my guess is about right. Sje's an egotistical kid.

    I like what you said about how to discuss this with her - in fact, I think it's brilliant. But now that I’ve had a couple of days to think about this may not be necessary.

    At some point in our "discussion" she said "they PAY me, you know" and I wanted to say " We - no - I PAY YOU" but I didn't want to argue with her. Her's was a stupid arguement, attempting to defend the indefensible. And that was "all she had?" – as if how you speak to people is is commiserate with being paid, and simple respect and common decency not the criteria for human interaction.

    I need to update this because I've thought it through after reading your comments:

    After Thursday’s class, I went home wondering where it would go because the head instructor was present in the arena - giving another lesson - so I know she caught some if not all of it. Our exchanges happened only a few dozen feet away. But I wasn't sure because in arenas things float up to the ceiling.

    Now next lesson, Friday's lesson, this young woman had little to NOTHING to say to me during the entire class. But before and after, she and the other student instructor would put their heads together and you could feel the tension. But I ignored it and spoke to her as if nothing happened.

    I worried before my class I'd be called on the carpet for reprimanding an instructor during a class and not taking it to the head in the first place. But as I thought about it, first of all, an argument or bad words was uncharacteristic of me.

    And it was this one one incident. I clearly stated I was responding to her words and tone. I wasn’t insulting or disrespectful. But I was LOUD as hell because I am loud as hell.

    So here's my guess (and I'm going to watch and see because you’re all correct, this can’t be ignored, if it was. But please read on):

    I need to try to figure what’s going on behind the scenes. Now that I've read your comments, I know I have a leg to stand on and HOW to stand on it, if I have to. But to push it prematurely would be lose lose.

    It would be saying to the head that I don't think she handled something that happened right under her nose because when I think about it, it looks like she may have dealt with this. Not all the incidents because she doens't know about them. But this one which is indicative of something.

    Keep in mind, I spoke my words publicly during the lesson in the arena.

    When I answered her comments to me I was not quiet, I was LOUD - not yelling but I know how to make myself heard (I've acted).

    You could tell I was very insulted and my coming at her was out of character for me. I've been riding there consistently for over a year.

    I'm the type of student that always has positives and encouragements for the instructors - because they're so young and they (most of them anyway) really try to give us their knowledge. I treat them all like they're like my kids or grandkids.

    What I think may have happened is there was a staff meeting before the next lesson. And the head may have told the young woman to back off. So she backed off so much she had very little to say to me, hardly any instruction which was fine with me. It did not stop me from ASKING her during Fridays lesson what I needed to ask. I’m sure my acting as if nothing was wrong made her miserable.

    Plus I am the type to email the head instructor my thoughts every week. I'm an emailing type. I report about the horses I'm riding or I ask a lot of questions – about what I’ve learned etc. I will email her about anything.

    So I'm loud AND gabby.

    And I;ve kind of assigned this head instructor the job of my mentor and she's let me so she gives me a lot of encouragement. She knows how much riding means to me.

    So my NOT saying anything to her about any of this is very out of character, I'm sure she's more than a little intrigued.

    She knows I apologized because I did it in the arena out loud because ultimately it didn't feel right to me to give the kid even a little public hell, being she's the instructor. It's not productive to argue. And the young woman was stupid enough to NOT accept it in the arena. (or afterwards privately)

    So I’m going to let this sit for the month of July. If she starts her shenanigans again, or anything really, then I will call for a meeting. I won’t confront her, this kid is not important enough for me to risk everything just to vent on her. I COULD. But it’s counter productive to me. First of all, I'll have to move on. Secondly if I lose, I look like an idiot and if I win, a bully.

    If she starts again, I have already written everything up, incident by incident. And either I’ll call for a meeting and let it rip, or I’ll write the head instructor and discuss it with her and withdraw from the program. There are always other barns, when it comes down to it. Business and money are business and money.

    This kid isn't going to leave the school, she's going to graduate and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's not a her or me situation. But if I make this an issue, I will have to leave and I'm willing to if it comes to it.

    But if she's been called to task, then I don't have to. No one has lost face.

    Thank you all for your encouragement. It has helped me sort this out. I know how to procede and trust me, I will do what needs doing.

    You're all right. And I'm grateful to you for your interest in my little barn drama.

    PS. I'm reluctant to leave outright because I love it there. I love the kids, the horses, the staff and my favorite beloved crazy horses are there.
         
        07-14-2013, 05:40 PM
      #11484
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Critter sitter    
    today was not a good day. Cody got his leg stuck in his turn out corral panel when I went to feed this morning. He must have been trying to kick at the horse next to him and got it stuck. I took a few pictures. I had to stay with him and keep him calm so the BO could help me free him. He had to take a sawsall to the panel to get him free.


    Here is the panel after. We put duct tape on the cut places to keep him from getting hurt worse.



    I had the vet out to check him over and make sure it was not broke.
    He gave him a shot of Bute and checked said he'll be sore but no bad cuts or tissue /tendon/or muscle damage just bruising.
    He is resting in stall with hand walking so he don't get stiff.
    Lets just say I was ready for a drink at about 9 am this morning. Thank god he was not hurt worse!
    OHHHHHHhhhhhh they are such knuckleheads sometimes!! (sigh)

    I'm glad he's okay. That had to hurt. But maybe he'll think twice before doing it again. (maybe)
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        07-14-2013, 05:42 PM
      #11485
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wild old thing    
    OHHHHHHhhhhhh they are such knuckleheads sometimes!! (sigh)

    I'm glad he's okay. That had to hurt. But maybe he'll think twice before doing it again. (maybe)
    I am happy he is ok
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        07-14-2013, 05:48 PM
      #11486
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Country Woman    
    hi everyone good to read everyones stories
    Sorry I don`t have any stories yet

    Just hard with hubby not working
    This too shall pass.

    My husband lost his staff job last year. He was out of work a few months and JUST as we started to break a serious sweat he picked up some contract work. Nothing big but we can hang on until.............who knows?

    You're not alone.
         
        07-14-2013, 05:48 PM
      #11487
    Yearling
    Wild old thing, I think you have nailed it. If Friday's lesson was as you describe, I completely agree with your observation that the head instructor probably had a little staff meeting after overhearing the exchange between the two of you, and gave the young lady the coaching she clearly needed. I think your plan is excellent and thoughtful, and fair to both parties (and to yourself!). Fingers crossed that your head instructor is on top of this already, before you have to say anything to her! At the very least, even if the head didn't say something, perhaps the young lady realized that she could be in trouble the next time if you would use you loud projecting voice to be heard by the head if the instructor was behaving inappropriately to you again! And, we all do understand the draw of the beloved horses... and why for you it might not be a happy solution to change barns. I think part of the fun of this thread is to hear the stories of the quirks of the equines we love and to support each other in the challenge of keeping them sane and healthy!
         
        07-14-2013, 07:20 PM
      #11488
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ladytrails    
    .......... I think part of the fun of this thread is to hear the stories of the quirks of the equines we love and to support each other in the challenge of keeping them sane and healthy!
    I ride three horses primarily all of them big - one is my chestnut QH mare, Lilly. She is a dun horse and makes magnificent golden babies. She may be the finest western horse in the world. It is my dream to someday buy her. She came to them an abused horse. In the stall, she's rough and doesn't trust people so she can be difficult, even dangerous if you don't respect what and who she is. You go in there aware. And determined. But once she's tacked, she's another horse entirely. She's **** near telepathic, she's so good. And happy! She relaxes and enjoys. I adore her because when we ride together she shows me the horse she is, the horse she might be if.......

    My second horse is a Holsteiner, a roan named Teddy. He's just gorgeous with the biggest brown eyes. He also was abused and shy and when he came to them 3 years ago - would quake when people entered his stall. He is adorable and good natured and loves. Just rubs his head on you and pushes into you and he's very physical and quite adorable. He doesn't "move in", he moves closer and sort of hugs.

    He's a crazy ride. His walk is fastfast. I have to half halt and keep on my toes. His trot is nuts...he will bound along, half cantering, half trotting, with the occasional hop. He's fast. He's cute. He has fun. His Lope is astounding - it's like everything you don't expect except it's faster than fast. He lopes like a greased walking horse - smooth, easy and super fast.

    If you talk to him, his ears go all over the place. He's just the best. I am hoping to work with him a lot and work through his hopping.
    On him, I'm gaining confidence, a lot of balance and the ability to fast adjust and expect the unexpected, which I think is invaluable.

    My last horse is my Braveheart. He is a giant Morgan and way too big around and lazy as a slug but good natured and a gentleman. He was diagnosed late last summer with diabetes. At first it was mild but it has gotten more serious this year as he cannot resist grass. He resists athletics but he's a good horse with probably the finest walk and trot you will ever ride, particularly on a big horse (except for my Lilly). He is the only horse who has the honor of having nipped me three times and ran me into a dead tree. He's ridiculous. With him you DON"T expect the unexpected because he's so ****ed lazy, but you will get it sometimes. He does not like loping and will find any excuse to not, like you flicked the wrong finger or something. I think it could be balance at his size. Or laziness. Or he doens't like loping, but some people can make him lope. Not me. He breaks. But I still love him. He's a good boy. He just can't bite me.
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        07-14-2013, 08:41 PM
      #11489
    Yearling
    Lori...how scary!!! Omg! Glad he is okay.

    Wild, hopefully things were resolved without you having to say anything.

    I hit another milestone with Isabella today. It's been over 6 months that I haven't had to put a halter or rope on her to get her out of the field. She just comes running or follows me out but I usually put her halter on her once we get out of the field.

    Today it was way too hot and humid to ride, so I just went out to the farm to let her out for a change of scenery and better grass. I didn't bother with her halter or rope. I took a chair and a book and caught some rays.

    Twice, I wanted her to come graze closer to me so I walked over to her and just laid my hand on her neck and she followed me! When it was time to put her back in her field, I did the same thing. I put my hand on her withers and she just walked all the way back to her field with me. Wow! What a great feeling!

    What isn't a good feeling is Sunday night. I hate the thought of going to work tomorrow. Yuck. At least I can watch True Blood in 20 minutes.
         
        07-14-2013, 09:48 PM
      #11490
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wild old thing    
    This too shall pass.

    My husband lost his staff job last year. He was out of work a few months and JUST as we started to break a serious sweat he picked up some contract work. Nothing big but we can hang on until.............who knows?

    You're not alone.
    my hubby is a computer programmer
    An knows networking and how to fix problems
    but he is outdated
         

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