I thought I would start a new thread for people over 40
who love horses.
This thread is open to owners leasers an people who
love horses
I will start I am 48 years old and I never yet owned a horse
mainly because of finances.
I have been around horses most of my life. I have ridden
all kinds of horses first ponies then horses
I have ridden Arab, Quarter Horses, Morgans, Appendix Quarter horses.
Thoroughbreds, Appaloosas, American Saddlebreds and Paints and lots of mixed breeds too and all sizes 14hh-17hh
I have ridden both English and western
here is are pictures of me riding my friends Pinto 14hh
and my friends Half Arab
My husband knows how much I would love my own horse so in the spring we are looking in to leasing a horse
AA, I am with you....the hay situation is scary. I got the 50 bale from my nephew and he said he could cut more...but I also said I would take hay from my other supplier.....which from what I know hasn't gotten into the fields YET! It rains pretty much every other day. :x I don't want to screw anyone over...but I need to think of my horses....I don't know if I should tell nephew to cut or not....
thoughts?
So , got a call from a woman last night that was recommended to ride with. She's 'older' (60s) and supposedly doesn't 'cowboy'. LOL She was saying that she and a friend were going to the metro parks today, and I could come along. I of course said YES!
Then.......she continues to tell me stories about her friends horse and how her friend (a newer rider) has been dumped several times.....yada yada.....my stomach starts to go:eek_color:
I get off the phone and talk to mom....How will I get out of this one? WHY do I jump into situations???? :icon_rolleyes:
Ends up she needs the truck (we share) so it's a perfect out!! I call and cancel.
I know it sounds silly.....but I need more miles under my belt with my trusty cowboys to go out riding with people who can't control their own horses. I am working on my 'fear' and feel better than before.....but my gut told me to wait on that debacle. :hide:
So I immediatley called the neighbor (Husband/wifeI rode with before) and we are working on some plans.
Hoping to get some major horse time in today. Yesterday was productive, and yes Koolio, 'school' is as bad as 'snow'....what I have yet another new situation in front of me (3 sections) and I need to be definitely organized. In addition, we start pretty early this year.
Roadyy - I love the horse statues!!! Are they part of the "Painted Ponies" collection? Congratulations on your credit score and I wish you the best on he financing coming through. Will you purchase the property you have recently acquired to rent then?
Blue - I am glad to hear Patches is doing well. He is so lucky to have you. It sounds like your delivery guy is on board with trying to help him work through some behaviours as well. I am always grateful when strangers are wiling to help me train Lucy by interacting with her appropriately.
Nicker - I'm happy to hear Piper is doing so well also. She sure is a cutie! I hope you enjoy your ride with your neighbours. I find some people great to ride with and others, not so much. Koolio and Sam are both pretty reliable on the trails and deal with things well, but I don't like feeling like I have to babysit other riders and their horses if they get a little crazy. I'm glad you had a productive day at school yesterday. I keep forgetting that your summer starts quite a lot earlier than ours. What is the first day back for your kids?
Anita - Sorry about the rain. It is frustrating and disconcerting when it delays securing your hay for the year too. I hope it dries up fast so you get your hay in. Do you get multiple cuts there, or just one cut? We usually have two here... How are Tasha and Beau doing today?
I have plans to go trail riding with friends tomorrow. Today is supposed to rain, so I will get caught up on some inside work around the house. I have all of my hay secured for the winter but still need to pick up 7 round bales from the field across the road from us. They are lined up waiting for me. We are still hoping DD can sell Himmy this summer and I also hope to board Koolio this winter if board doesn't increase too much. If both those things happen, I will have lots of hay left over. If not, I will have enough but next year could be a repeat of this year.
Koolio, thanks for posting that pic. I knew canola was short for Canada Oil, but never had seen what the fields look like. Now I know!
Anita, I can only hope for Grandma soon. However that would be bittersweet as they have accepted an excellent job offer in Idaho! :sad: And My truck may soon be in the shop as well. We think its the injectors that need replacing. Ugh. That leaves me only one vehicle and it doesn't have A/C.
I got the "Best Friend Western Style" bareback pad. I'm going to take a short spin around the property this morning to try it out. I'll try to get a picture. It looks really comfy.
Roadyy, Wow! Not only an awesome trip, but what an arrival! Katlyn is beautiful. Is that going to be their spelling? And your credit score coming up? You must be walking with your head in the clouds right now! Congratulations! :love shower:
Koolio, kids start the 26th, which isn't too bad, but we have 5 days of in service prior to that....that is new! So....that is 5 days I will not be able to work in my room, hence needing to think about things now.
The caveat is that we will be out by Memorioal day.
Yes....babysitting other riders.....I feel like I am back in the dating scene with all the new ridersI come in contact with and then toss to the side...LOL HI how ya doing? NOPE, see ya later! LOL
Twalker, I don't know if any good DVD;s to explain leg pressure, but I will say that it's like a dance. Consider dancing with your horse. You're using you're entire body and the communication is transferring down to your legs. That really didn't help did it.
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I kind of get what you a saying. Say if you want to go around a barrel to the right, do I pull the right rein and also use the left outer leg or the right inside leg? This is where I get messed up. Hope this makes sense. You would have thought I would know this seeing as I had horses before but my horses necked reined and I used them plus voice commands. Very simple old ways.:icon_rolleyes: Thanks.
Tracey, I'm not sure about the Painted Collection. I didn't research the reason for them I just know of several cities that do a particular animal and put statues all over town or at least a specific area of town.
If you are talking about the 1 acre place we had tried to rent back at the beginning of June then no. They took so many days returning or calls and texts just trying to set up a signing day that it would not have allowed me a 30 day notice. Plus with them taking so long to respond I just had a bad vibe about how it was going to be dealing with them so we backed out.
More good news. I've spoken of my work at building my credit score and our plight for buying a home. Well, I sent her an email Saturday inquiring about FHA financing mh's over 15 years old as someone said they wouldn't. She said FHA doesn't have that restriction and that it is the individual lenders that FHA backs that typically put that out there. Then she proceeded to let me know she went ahead and pulled my score again since it was still inside her 90 days of the last pull and I'm at 640!!!!!! Only needed a 620 to qualify for FHA so we gave her all the financial info to go forward with applying to see how much I can borrow.
I am ecstatic!!!!! Ok I am out of time for today. I hope everyone has an amazing day!!!!
TWalker, I see what you mean. It's hard to transition from neck reining to direct reining. IMO, it's kind of a full body move. Right rein to tip the nose, but don't you have to also lift that shoulder to be able to pivot through your turn?
I would start slow and direct rein but put emphasis on lifting the inside shoulder with that rein, while the inside leg is pressing the hindquarters out the outside leg is pressing the shoulders around.
Hmmm… I'm envisioning it in my head but not sure I'm explaining correctly. And I've only dabbled in barrels as my mare is such a clod.
I took a spin around in my new bareback pad this morning! Wow! I really like it. I may or may not change the cinch to something with a little more area to it. The last pic is my old man Bart. His coat is still in good condition but he's starting to lose weight and top line. He's still the ruler of the pasture though.
TWalker, I see what you mean. It's hard to transition from neck reining to direct reining. IMO, it's kind of a full body move. Right rein to tip the nose, but don't you have to also lift that shoulder to be able to pivot through your turn?
I would start slow and direct rein but put emphasis on lifting the inside shoulder with that rein, while the inside leg is pressing the hindquarters out the outside leg is pressing the shoulders around.
Hmmm… I'm envisioning it in my head but not sure I'm explaining correctly. And I've only dabbled in barrels as my mare is such a clod.
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Blue, you lost me on the lifting the inside shoulder :icon_rolleyes: Trainer uses poles and barrels to move through and around. I get the rein part but not the rest :shrug:
TWalker, I see what you mean. It's hard to transition from neck reining to direct reining. IMO, it's kind of a full body move. Right rein to tip the nose, but don't you have to also lift that shoulder to be able to pivot through your turn?
I would start slow and direct rein but put emphasis on lifting the inside shoulder with that rein, while the inside leg is pressing the hindquarters out the outside leg is pressing the shoulders around.
Hmmm… I'm envisioning it in my head but not sure I'm explaining correctly. And I've only dabbled in barrels as my mare is such a clod.
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Blue, you lost me on the lifting the inside shoulder :icon_rolleyes: Trainer uses poles and barrels to move through and around. I get the rein part but not the rest :shrug:
Ok. Please forgive. I don't usually explain myself well. And remember, I've only played around with barrels and poles and never got too serious. However, the principle(pal?) is the same. In order to make that turn in the correct lead, the horse needs to left that inside shoulder. Imagine a lead change. A very extreme lead change. Same with the poles. They are really nothing more than flying lead changes. And, to do that they need to lift that shoulder to throw that leg out there to take the weight of the turn….
I'm sorry. I'm just not good at this. I've got to get mowing right now, but I'll try to find something on YouTube that may explain it better when I come back in.
Hey Koolio. I am keeping well. Last night a line of storms came thru and soaked the ground. A nice gentle rain. I went out this a.m. and my garden looked regenerated. Very, very thankful.
More good news. I've spoken of my work at building my credit score and our plight for buying a home. Well, I sent her an email Saturday inquiring about FHA financing mh's over 15 years old as someone said they wouldn't. She said FHA doesn't have that restriction and that it is the individual lenders that FHA backs that typically put that out there. Then she proceeded to let me know she went ahead and pulled my score again since it was still inside her 90 days of the last pull and I'm at 640!!!!!! Only needed a 620 to qualify for FHA so we gave her all the financial info to go forward with applying to see how much I can borrow.
I am ecstatic!!!!! Ok I am out of time for today. I hope everyone has an amazing day!!!!
Twalker, my suggestion for DVDs: google Julie Goodnight DVDs, somewhere in her Principles of Riding I bet (am sure) she covers what you are asking (I have the 2 canter DVDs & have drooled over the P of R series...but they ARE pricey...can be found on Amazon). I would love to have that series, from "This is a horse...to...this is the canter" lol! LOVE Julie Goodnight!
Much good news, Rick!! happy for you!
Nice bareback pad, Blue! Looks very like the one I use when I can bareback on Spirit.
Janice is still trying to get thru my thick head the lift the inside shoulder-engage hindquarters thing, while lightly tipping the nose...very confusing to me! (And all about teaching me to use my BODY to ride & the reins aren't a "steering wheel" lol!) She got on Bailey once to show me what it looks like (went so fast & she's subtle!); got Bailey instantly into this beautiful collection/trot/turning thing. Wow...
I got up later than I wanted to (6am instead of 4 am); still trying to get rested up & needed the sleep. Too late for laundry room 'tho, so will get up early tomorrow & get that done, go get my feathers (hair!) cut.
Went to the grocery store a bit ago, amazing how fast $160 can go...although i did buy a new scratching post, since the cats have decimated the other two & seemed to have decided yesterday that "Bob" is the new "scratching post"...even 'tho he's been sitting just fine & unmolested in the living for months! Yesterday twice found him tipped over from his box. Grrr...
Nicker, canceling on that iffy ride sounds like it was meant to be (the canceling). Can't be any fun to try & ride if you're concerned that another rider can't control her horse. Your neighboring couple sound great to have a fun ride with. Hope you're getting horse time today!
Yes, fall seems to be coming up fast. I'm thinking I'm in for another winter at work (have gotten very tired of being out in the elements). Have requested my late October vacation (in writing; A/C said "But we can't do without you!" (even 'tho we're now fully staffed & newest young woman will be fully trained/on shift by then). I replied "You'll have to. I have things I need to do, a friend is visiting from out-of-state, & I need to get away from this place before I face another winter!"). What I didn't say is that I'll also (beginning in September) be heavily into researching prospects for another job...For once, I need something to work out for ME.
Sure hope everyone hay issues work out good. Janice gets hers from a neighbor. Been so rainy this summer...I don't know how that's going.
Twalker, my suggestion for DVDs: google Julie Goodnight DVDs, somewhere in her Principles of Riding I bet (am sure) she covers what you are asking (I have the 2 canter DVDs & have drooled over the P of R series...but they ARE pricey...can be found on Amazon). I would love to have that series, from "This is a horse...to...this is the canter" lol! LOVE Julie Goodnight!
TWalker, Charmayne James is another good one. Julie Goodnight has excellent info on all around training and riding, but Charmayne is a champion barrel racer and may have some nice tips too. But for info on "lifting the shoulder" Julie would be where to start
TWalker, Charmayne James is another good one. Julie Goodnight has excellent info on all around training and riding, but Charmayne is a champion barrel racer and may have some nice tips too. But for info on "lifting the shoulder" Julie would be where to start
Twalker - this is how I understand riding with seat and leg to turn the horse.
Seat first. I start with the he seat because your seat will naturally position your legs. You will slightly turn your pelvis (think belly button) in the direction the you want the horse to turn, keeping your weight evenly distributed on your seat bones. The horse can feel this and will respond. You can practice by riding in a straight line and experimenting with shifting your body slightly to see if the horse starts to move to one side or the other. Think pointing your core or belly button where you want to go.
Now legs. As you turn your core and pelvis, your legs will move. If you keep your weight even and don't pitch inward, your outside leg will naturally come back a little bit and your inside leg will plant itself closer to the shoulder as you balance yourself. Think of the horse turning around your inside leg and that your leg is there to support and prevent the horse from dropping its shoulder. Horses move away from pressure, so in the turn, the horse will lift its inside shoulder in response to your leg being there. Don't add pressure, just think of your leg as a pillar that the horse must turn around. The outside leg will control the hindquarters as it will fall behind the girth slightly. This will make the horse move in an arc around your inside leg with a bend through the rib cage. If you lose the outside contact and have your inside leg too far back the horse may swing its but around and plant the inside front foot, doing a turn on the forehand instead.
Try standing with your feet shoulder width apart and your knees slightly bent. Stand deeply in your centre of gravity and then turn your core or belly to the direction you want to go. Notice how the inside leg takes the weight and your outside leg pivots back. That is what the turn using your seat feels like, but exaggerated.
Lastly, hands. If you ar riding two handed, you simply open the inside rein inviting the horses nose to tip and come inward in the direction you are turning. Don't drop your hand, just open the rein. The outside rein should maintain steady contact as should your inside leg. This will cue the horse to flex downward and give you softness. Instructors will tell you to ride inside leg to outside hand as these are the stabilizing elements at keep the horse soft and round. Before hands, however, think riding with your seat and core first and foremost.
I don't know if this is what you were looking for or if it helps at all. I regularly play games where I get my horse on a straight line and use just my seat and legs to purposefully wander off that line. It works quite well and gives you a good idea of how to position yourself. For a sharp turn, you will need legs.
Lastly, don't forget eyes up and looking where you want to go!
My BIL said he had all his horses trained to move into pressure and so they turned into his inside leg. When he told me this, I was really confused and nervous about riding his horses. Once I got on I realized, he is just doing the same thing, only thinking of it differently. He focussed on his inside leg to support the shoulder and didn't realize his outside leg was doing anything to limit the hindquarters. He was still riding mainly with his core. I got on and rode as usual with no problems. Riding with your seat becomes very intuitive once you wrap your head around it and get over thinking about which leg to use with which hand and when.
TWalker, I see what you mean. It's hard to transition from neck reining to direct reining. IMO, it's kind of a full body move. Right rein to tip the nose, but don't you have to also lift that shoulder to be able to pivot through your turn?
I would start slow and direct rein but put emphasis on lifting the inside shoulder with that rein, while the inside leg is pressing the hindquarters out the outside leg is pressing the shoulders around.
Hmmm… I'm envisioning it in my head but not sure I'm explaining correctly. And I've only dabbled in barrels as my mare is such a clod.
I took a spin around in my new bareback pad this morning! Wow! I really like it. I may or may not change the cinch to something with a little more area to it. The last pic is my old man Bart. His coat is still in good condition but he's starting to lose weight and top line. He's still the ruler of the pasture though.
This is what I would do to get a pivot on the haunches or a rollback that relies a straight body rather than a fluid round turn. I am now confused about why Twalker is trying to accomplish.:confused_color:
Maybe I am confusing??
I like the bareback pad. It looks very comfy and reasonably substantial!
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