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post #3031 of 29437 Old 05-29-2012, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
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post #3032 of 29437 Old 05-30-2012, 02:33 AM
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Is there a thread like this for people in their 20's ? :)
No, but youngns that have some thing to say on a regular basis have the job of fetching the coffee. Its a long job considering one would have to travel the world delivering. Mine is a flat white please two sugars address Northland NZ

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post #3033 of 29437 Old 05-30-2012, 03:15 AM
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just not fair
CW sorry to read you are having so much trouble getting a saddle from the owner.

What ever you do don't ride unless it's in a saddle your horse even though calm may react. Check her back run your fingers down her back bone use some pressure but don't dig the ends of your fingers in and see if she reacts. If she pulls away or flinches there may be an issue. I bring this up because I can see you getting frustrated enough to get on bare back and at least make sure she does not have a pain problem.

My first horse Savannah had a saddle break and pinch her withers. A lot of pain for the horse and a hell of a ride for me. It was months before I put a saddle back on her hence the reason I mention it. Horses don't get ridden for a reason. On the other hand (country song) there may be nothing wrong, other than no one was attracted to the horse until you came along.

So with that said take the horse and bit her up, stand on a box but before you do make sure she is comfortable with a box close. Stand on the box and lean on her back see how she goes and progress from there.

I mentioned in an earlier post teaching the horse her safe place, having her give her head to you by holding her tail and asking her to flex her neck back to her tail, both sides. If you can do that just by asking on a light rein then you can take her into her safe place and the worst she can do is turn in a tight circle. That position when sitting on her is not only her safe place it is yours. Both of my horses were taught that with Stella being the hardest to teach but it defuses her, and calms her.

Good luck CW

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post #3034 of 29437 Old 05-30-2012, 09:10 AM
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Well, she did when I had her on trial at my old trainers. Now, with my own bits and bridles, and having had 3 weeks off, she is more often behind the vertical and evading the bit than not. I want her head set higher for hunter pleasure and I swear she is almost touching her nose to her chest. She's got a nice foam going, but chomping on it like crazy, very strong,and not very responsive. This was in the snaffle.

Today I decided just to try the pelham to see if she was as strong in it. She's definitely more responsive in it, but way behind the vertical. I wont use it again until we get all this sorted out, as I do know that a horse can be ruined with a curb bit very quickly.

What type of bit was she in before? Chomping on the bit too much isn't good, is the bit too thin or too thick? Foam however is good lol. If she is behind the vertical and she's avoiding the bit, there's something she doesn't like about it. Make sure that the thickness and length of the bit are correct. Get her old owners to correctly measure her old bit.


When I bought a bit for valentino, I had purchased a 5 1/2 inch french link D-ring snaffle ( I had assumed, incorrectly of course, since he was 17 HH he needed a longer bit lol.), he chomped on it like mad, he was foamy but waaay too much chomping. I changed it to a 5 inch eggbut french link snaffle, he loved it, chomping was minimal, but he was still nice and foamy. Go to your local tack shop, they usually offer bits on consignment, grab 3 different types and see what she likes best. Good luck =)

Here's a great link that I found for anyone interested in dressage or for the dressage diva's out there: http://www.sustainabledressage.net/r...e_vertical.php


I rode a horse in a pelham the other day, he had a mouth like a rock, there was no giving or taking with him, you needed constant pressure to keep him on the vertical. I'm 5'3 he's a Belgian/TB X, MASSIVE animal, I was sore for 3 days lmao.

Chance59: Great to see you back on the forum =)

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Oh CW, I feel for you, but please please do not get on that horse bareback! There is no excuse for the owners to drag thier feet in getting a saddle, low $$ ....really now...if you don't have the funds to even equip your horse with tack, how dare they put her up for lease!

If they were serious about getting a saddle, all they need to do is open an Ebay account, search >> saddles >>english (or western)>> Used 18in close contact english saddle. | eBay

$10 starting bid....shipping is 45$ .....the MOST a saddle would cost them if they are looking to go on the cheap side is 100$...You are paying 150$ p/m to lease her right? Hopefully Marc can get this sorted out for you.

If they refuse to get a saddle after they "get a good talking to" don't stress out, there's lots of horses out there that need loving, don't get frustrated, you'll find your match sooner or later!

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post #3036 of 29437 Old 05-30-2012, 11:15 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you Stan and Fahntasia for the advice
The owner rode her last summer and had a saddle then
Over the winter Belle lost weight and now the saddle pinches
I do not understand that part

I am paying $100 for 3 days a week
I do enjoy working with her, because I know ground work is important too

My friend and I have an idea we are going to try her saddle on Belle today
Hopefully we can figure this out

I have a few messages out on CL for a saddle under $300
I know they have English saddles around the barn so if it comes down to
That I will ride English

Hubby is going to talk to the owners mom or dad to see what can be done
I know the mom is low on money
But to put an add up saying Horse for Lease that say riding is dishonest

Stan I will not get on bareback

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Thank you Stan and Fahntasia for the advice
The owner rode her last summer and had a saddle then
Over the winter Belle lost weight and now the saddle pinches
I do not understand that part

I am paying $100 for 3 days a week
I do enjoy working with her, because I know ground work is important too

My friend and I have an idea we are going to try her saddle on Belle today
Hopefully we can figure this out

I have a few messages out on CL for a saddle under $300
I know they have English saddles around the barn so if it comes down to
That I will ride English

Hubby is going to talk to the owners mom or dad to see what can be done
I know the mom is low on money
But to put an add up saying Horse for Lease that say riding is dishonest

Stan I will not get on bareback
Good luck with the saddle today CW, is there someone there that can help check the fit? Would love to see a picture of you riding Belle!
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Every one out there rides English and knows how to fit those saddles
But not western
I would love to ride her

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post #3039 of 29437 Old 05-30-2012, 11:26 AM
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What type of bit was she in before? Chomping on the bit too much isn't good, is the bit too thin or too thick? Foam however is good lol. If she is behind the vertical and she's avoiding the bit, there's something she doesn't like about it. Make sure that the thickness and length of the bit are correct. Get her old owners to correctly measure her old bit.


When I bought a bit for valentino, I had purchased a 5 1/2 inch french link D-ring snaffle ( I had assumed, incorrectly of course, since he was 17 HH he needed a longer bit lol.), he chomped on it like mad, he was foamy but waaay too much chomping. I changed it to a 5 inch eggbut french link snaffle, he loved it, chomping was minimal, but he was still nice and foamy. Go to your local tack shop, they usually offer bits on consignment, grab 3 different types and see what she likes best. Good luck =)

Here's a great link that I found for anyone interested in dressage or for the dressage diva's out there: ::: Sustainable Dressage - Rollkur - How And Why Not? - Behind the Vertical Explained :::


I rode a horse in a pelham the other day, he had a mouth like a rock, there was no giving or taking with him, you needed constant pressure to keep him on the vertical. I'm 5'3 he's a Belgian/TB X, MASSIVE animal, I was sore for 3 days lmao.

Chance59: Great to see you back on the forum =)
She was in a Pelham for her Hunter Pleasure classes and a Weymouth with Bradoon for dressage (she's at a much higher level than I in dressage) but when I had her on trial, though she was strong in a snaffle, she didn't chomp it and try to evade it. She wears a 5 inch and it fits her well. I don't have a way to contact the previous owners unfortunately, I had my past trainer act as my agent and find me the right horse, which she did, and we worked on finding the right bits for her. I'm pretty sure she doesnt like single jointed bits, and I need to go play with the Bristol and french link and ride a few more times in the oval link. I'm scheduling a lesson with my trainer now that she is rideable!

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