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        02-20-2013, 09:24 PM
      #7201
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Celeste    
    It is very doubtful that the IM banamine will cause a problem. Sure it can happen, but it is not that common.
    Thanks Celeste. I needed to hear that. When you google it, all you read are the horrible stories. I should have stayed off of google. I am a huge worrier and should know better.

    I need a glass of wine...or two, or six.
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        02-20-2013, 10:11 PM
      #7202
    Yearling
    Corgi, prayers that poop is headed your way. I mean that in the best way, with a colicky horse the answer to prayer is poop. In the meantime, don't worry about the Banamine causing an abscess. It's rare and it can be dealt with in good time even if it happens.

    If you can get him to drink more tonight or in the morning, that can't hurt and might help. When my old guy colicked I got electrolytes and actually mixed it with a bit of applesauce and tubed it into him with an empty paste wormer. It helps make them thirsty, which helps keep them hydrated....very important. After he recovered, we started watching to make sure he drank. If he didn't, he got some table salt or electrolytes as top dressing on a bit of feed to ensure that he stayed a tad thirstier than usual. Good luck, fingers crossed.....
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        02-20-2013, 10:22 PM
      #7203
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    Originally Posted by corgi    
    Thanks Celeste. I needed to hear that. When you google it, all you read are the horrible stories. I should have stayed off of google. I am a huge worrier and should know better.

    I need a glass of wine...or two, or six.
    Last horse I saw with suspected colic was given a small bottle of beer and walked. Don't laugh it does start things moving and the horse did not mind the beer.
         
        02-20-2013, 11:21 PM
      #7204
    Trained
    A lot of horses colic in cold weather because they are eating a lot of dry hay and they don't want to drink enough cold water to keep the hay moving through their gut. Serving up warmer water can prevent a lot of colics. Back when we used to have winter around here, we used a heater in the water trough. We haven't even had ice on the water in two years; maybe that global warming stuff is paying off.

    About the IM banamine, I have used it IM in cases where I had too much trouble hitting a vein due to the horse thrashing around. I never had a problem with it. There is way too much hype on the internet. The drug still has a label for IM use. Banamine is the least of his problems. The colic is the worry.
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        02-21-2013, 12:07 AM
      #7205
    Weanling
    Prayers and hugs for Scruffy
         
        02-21-2013, 01:50 AM
      #7206
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    Calories



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    Yesterday I had two carrots today one.
    I feel I am being targeted
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        02-21-2013, 03:06 AM
      #7207
    Weanling
    Corgi, prayers for Scruffy, hope you find him well and on the mend in the morning.
    I used to bring a bucket in the house in the morning during freezing weather when I had my old gelding and fill it most of the way with warm water and then add in a bottle of apple juice or even a can of carrot juice and he'd drink it right up. It could very well be not drinking enough in the cold weather, like someone mentioned earlier even a little table salt in his feed might make him drink more. Is he stalled or in pasture? The best thing about being stalled even if just bringing in at night they have a water bucket so you can tell if they're drinking. Good luck hope all goes well.
         
        02-21-2013, 03:58 AM
      #7208
    Weanling
    When you have persistent colic the vet should be called right away. Banamine often will get you through a mild case but it also can mask the pain and symptoms in a more severe case. I understand the predicament when you are not the owner but are concerned about the horse's welfare. Medication will not cause ulcers unless you are giving the horse bute. Horses that grain colic often develop laminitis. Spring and fall are colic seasons with rapid changes in the weather and not drinking is part of it. Water in colder climates should have a heater and horses should have salt available. I have built feeders that have a grate that slides down over the hay to keep our horses from scattering the hay and eating off of our sandy ground. Sand colic is the worst. We also feed Sand Clear once a month. We don't have to worry about it right now. We got another 6 inches of snow yesterday. It was a good thing. I could actually free longe Trampus in his paddock without him falling down to get some of the pent up energy out of him so I could trim him without him killing me. Good luck with your horse. Colic is really a stressful thing.
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        02-21-2013, 04:22 AM
      #7209
    Weanling
    The past president of our driving club just returned from a western dressage clinic. He was promoting a three part series of clinics and in the process really ticked me off. His whole thing was, Boy, we are really going to show these western people everything that they have been doing wrong. A couple of years ago I was watching a lesson he was giving. There were about ten people there in different levels of proficiency which is counter productive. I was standing next to him and remarked that John had a nice horse. She is a nicely built Qtr. Horse. His reply was, "She's a bit**ch. I found out later that he had gotten on her and had a bad experience. I invited John who was a novice, 70 year old rider? To bring her over here for some training. He brought the horse two or three days a week during the summer. The problem was four fold. John didn't know anything, he was afraid to ride her, he doesn't remember too well, and the horse was a green 12 year old mare. Iit was my intention to teach John how to do ground work with the horse but I ended up riding her too. I have never ridden a horse that had a sweeter disposition and was more willing to learn. Before the summer was over John and I were going on trail rides together and he was thrilled. At the end of the summer this year he paid a fifteen year old kid to ride her in one of our local shows and the the horse was reserve high point. John was in Heaven. Of course, at our club meeting John was bragging on his horse and the past president said, "I loved that horse when I rode her." To be continued.
         
        02-21-2013, 04:38 AM
      #7210
    Weanling
    I watched a Youtube video of a television celebrity giving a demo of Western Dressage. She was riding a warmblood in a western saddle;was wearing a cowboy hat and was doing classical dressage. Mind you, I have nothing against finely training a horse. It's the attitude of so many of the riders that bugs me. Theirs is the only correct discipline, everyone else is wrong and they are eager to tell you so even though they have not been invited to and have not progressed beyond training level. I quit participating in other forums because it was impossible to have a rational discourse without one of these people spoiling it for everyone else, never contributing anything constructive and always criticizing. I shudder to think that our western disciplines are going to be invaded and divided by this mind set.
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