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post #1 of 19 Old 01-18-2012, 02:40 AM Thread Starter
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Horses&fire: Before I label this as cruel...

Rein of fire: Spanish villagers are hot to trot in flame-jumping festival to ensure the safety of their animals | Mail Online

Does anyone have any info on this to shed some light on it o.0

It looks wholly horrific to me, however, its a one sided article, and I believe the pictures taken at angles to make the jumping through flames a whole lot worse.

Then there is the argument- would your horse jump through fire for you... I know sure ****ed mine wouldn't, and would probably throw me and run!
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post #2 of 19 Old 01-18-2012, 02:44 AM
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Those are amazing pictures I have to say!

There's a youtube video of police horses doing a show, and they jump through hoops of fire, it's quite interesting...if only I could remember the video's name lol.

Cowboy would probably refuse and run away lol. Although in the back of my head I feel he'd jump it :)
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I don't know if this is a big bonfire they have to jump through, or if its two bonfires and they jump through the middle though..
or if the horse's are protected against the flames.

With the police horse's, they jump through the ring of fire to AVOID the fire, however it looks like these horses are touched by the flames... but may be the angle of the photos, again...
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Yeah because in some of the pictures, they look like they're on fire! It's crazy what people do these days.....and hopefully the horses are protected. But if they weren't, their hair would probably get scorched off..

And that's a good point about the police horses...this just reminded me of them
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I've had my share of touching fire (national antics ;) ) - if you are wet or wear wet cotton clothes, and move really fast - you don't get burnt. This might apply to horses, too.

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Looks dangerous to me, frankly. I've seen the performance by Tommie Turvey several years ago, when he put a fabric on horse's butt and fired it up. Horse had no problems with it (and no, it was NOT hurt in any way, I'd never even think about it seeing how he talks/treats his horses).

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I was just curious if anyone has more info to settle my mind ;)

I see where you're coming from, but one looks sweaty, but they look dry apart from that....
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I bet!

I don't see it as cruel. It's a part of their culture, and they said that no horses get hurt (though, who knows what goes on behind the scenes). 'Mentally' traumatizing, maybe? Though what isn't these days for horses :roll:
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i used to study alot of medieval traditons and before any festival it was customary to soak or rub different ointments on yourself before performing. i know when it came to jostling and a few other festivals that included horses they used lavender to calm the nerves and milk and water mixed with lavender to rub all over the animals body.
i would bet that these animals and riders also put some sort of ointment on. they are very religious and into there culture and probably do the same traditions as back then with minor changes.

as for cruel i don't think so. as unsafe yes.. as tramautizing, yes possibly but these animals are going thru such festivals since they are old enough to ride, and sometimes before that if they are already used for driving or working.

so personally i dont think its animal cruelty.. yes they can have a slip up and one gets hurt but anyone can get hurt just crossing a street... so i think its being over played just bc of the way the pics look.
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