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    03-25-2013, 10:27 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by horsesgs    
my horses get a bowl of salt that sits in their paddock area and they can have some whenever they feel like it.
Well that is not a protein block then. Still have no idea what a protein block is. But I'm guessing it didn't contribute anything.
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    03-25-2013, 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by GhostwindAppaloosa    
I think it depends on the horse. I could shove all the hot food in the world into most of my horses and the craziest they get is when they hear the grain bin. LOL

Every horse is different in their chemical makeup - so adding different things will cause the horse to react differently.
    03-25-2013, 10:30 AM
Originally Posted by poppy1356    
Well that is not a protein block then. Still have no idea what a protein block is. But I'm guessing it didn't contribute anything.

Protein blocks are for supplementing protein when you have a low protein hay and do not feed grain. They come in blocks or you can also get large 200lb tubs of them. Tried them before not a single one of my horses would touch them even though our hay is lower protein
    03-25-2013, 10:31 AM
Originally Posted by poppy1356    
Well that is not a protein block then. Still have no idea what a protein block is. But I'm guessing it didn't contribute anything.

Maybe research instead of automatically discounting it just because you do not understand. There are several manufactures of equine protein blocks and protein tubs.

Example - HorsLicŪ Supplement Feed Block for Horses
    03-25-2013, 10:31 AM
Originally Posted by poppy1356    
Again most likely from too much NSC content, not protein. What were they getting fed before? Name of feed and amount?
before we stopped the protein they got a half scoop (about a cup and 1/2) in the morning and 2 cups at night. They had their protein block next to their bowl of salt. And in the winter they had their field open 24/7 and they would get normal hay and a flake of alfalfa each and in the spring/ summer they would only get to go out into the field for a short amount of time (about 3 hrs) because a horse that past away about 4 months ago got collic easily. And that was pretty much their schedule
What exactly is NSC?
    03-25-2013, 10:39 AM
Oh another thing was I got a new horse that was quiet and calm (mind you he never got any extra protein in his life he was raised in "the old west" I guess you could say lol. ) and he was calm for a while. My grandma decided he needed protein and decided to shovel it into him. The same amount we do our other horses. And in a few weeks it kicked in and he went NUTS. We knew he was calm and quiet so we went to get on him on the side yard and she sat down and he started prancing around and trying to bolt so she jumped off. We thought he might be scared of something or not used to it so we walked him around and nothing bothered him so we brought him to an area he knew well and he did the same. So we stopped the protien and he's calm again! Same old horse we bought!
    03-25-2013, 10:59 AM
Green Broke
Scoops of what though? I asked for name of feed. It most likely had a very high NSC content. Sugar+starches. You want that percentage low. Oats are upwards of 40-50%, typically you should aim to around 15% total.

Protein blocks seem to be referred to as mineral blocks by some manufactors. It has been debated here that horses usually do not get what they need from a block but rather loose minerals. So still going back to what I said that the block probably didn't contribute to their behavior at all.

Every horse will act differently on the same feed, you need to find what works for each horse indivdually. But for an entire herd to be "crazy" off of protein is very highly unlikely but rather another factor, be it environmental or a very hot feed.
    03-25-2013, 11:04 AM
I don't know the exact brand. I know it's a purple bag XD and it did have something to do with it trust me. They still get a little of that grain and nothing happens. It was just too much hot foods [B]including[B]the protein block. I know the food wasn't high in sugar/starches though
    03-25-2013, 11:57 PM
I have a pony and she was very hot headed and in the last 3 months have changed her feed ,she was getting beet pulp,chaff and mix which was full of molasses all high in sugar and it blew her brain, she did her last show before christmas and bolted to the fences. She's just been brought back into work now and is on low protein/sugar diet and is a different animal - SO the point is yes every animal is different and its all about trial and error what works for one may not work for the other. I can feed my others whatever and there fine but this one mare, was like a child full of sweets !
    03-26-2013, 03:47 AM
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If it is comercial feed (re the purple bag), it is most likely too high in sugar and starch. You can't just trust what the packaging says, you have to read the table of ingredients carefully, and, if the sugar/starch percentage isn't mentioned precisely - you should contact the manufacturer before feeding it to your horses.

If you are feeding oats, you might want to consider a balancer feed to be sure of a better vitamin/mineral balance in your horses' feed.

By the way, a good thing to try out is beet pulp. It's not too high in protein, it's practically clear from sugar and has a 0 percent of starch, and horses digest it very well, just as they digest forage.

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