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    01-26-2012, 12:19 PM
  #11
Trained
I don't think I know any Horse Trader - who isn't a liar. The saying around here goes "Buyer Beware"
     
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    01-26-2012, 12:20 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
I'm confused. First you say he said, "No money back if you don't like him."
Then you say he said, "Money back if you don't like him." Which is it?

How do you know the man is a 'trader'? How long had he owned the horse? What breed is the horse? What is wrong with the horse exactly? Is it a health problem, training problem? How old is the horse? Did you have a PPE? What paperwork/emails passed between you?

Does this person sell a great many horses in the classifieds? Is so, then I suspect he is a dealer, if not a breeder of so many horses. If it is a case of false advertising, then I would contact Dreamhorse. Scoundrels abound in the horse industry, so it pays to do a great deal of checking, if one cannot see the horse in person.

Lizzie
I think she meant that when she said she'd fly out to look at the horse the guy said not to because he would give her money back if she didn't like the horse.
     
    01-26-2012, 12:20 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Wyhorses    
He had him shipped to us in AZ.. money back if we didn't like him. The horse is not a physical fit. We are paying for the transport... I was going to fly to Texas but Texas horse trader said "money back if you don't like him".... :(:'(
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So is the horse too big? Too small? Too crippled?

People that buy horses from out of state and have them shipped sight unseen are taking an awfull risk. For most people it is advisable to shop for horses close enough to your home that you can see them in person before you buy them. I'm sure you know that now though.
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    01-26-2012, 03:05 PM
  #14
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Interesting story here - subbing.
     
    01-26-2012, 03:15 PM
  #15
Yearling
Subbing as well. This story confuses me
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    01-26-2012, 03:17 PM
  #16
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Please tell me you have something in writing? Or it was written on the ad at least?

Horse Dealers are out to get money. I was stung by a woman before on a pony who tried to double barrel my daughter in the head. Because I had collected the pony I let the woman know under no circumstances was I keeping the pony and let her know I would be on her doorstep in no time.

You can try and threaten legal action, say you have the conversation recorded, ect. But you'd be chancing your arm and likely be told where to put your legal action as he'd call your bluff.
     
    01-26-2012, 03:36 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by Maple    
Horse Dealers are out to get money.
Aren't we all? The real question is 'Are we willing to trade our honor and good name for it?' regardless of what a person does for a living they must make that choice for themselves. Not all horse traders are dishonest just like all car dealers aren't crooks. Whenever you buy anything you should make sure it's what you want. People talk themselves into horses they can't handle or shouldn't buy and then blame the person that sold them the horse and call them a crook. I sold a horse at an auction that I expressly said needed an experienced rider. As I was riding the horse before the sale I heard this big loud-mouth say he didn't know anything about horses he just wanted something he could go hunting on. Well wouldn't you know he was the one that bought the horse. He didn't get along well with her and spent quite a bit of money sending her to trainers. Had he not been lying to himself and paid attention to what I said and wrote in the catalog then he could have bought a nice gentle horse he could enjoy.
     
    01-26-2012, 03:44 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by crimsonsky    
interesting story here - subbing.
Iteresting is one word for it......
     
    01-26-2012, 03:46 PM
  #19
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
Aren't we all? The real question is 'Are we willing to trade our honor and good name for it?' regardless of what a person does for a living they must make that choice for themselves. Not all horse traders are dishonest just like all car dealers aren't crooks. Whenever you buy anything you should make sure it's what you want. People talk themselves into horses they can't handle or shouldn't buy and then blame the person that sold them the horse and call them a crook. I sold a horse at an auction that I expressly said needed an experienced rider. As I was riding the horse before the sale I heard this big loud-mouth say he didn't know anything about horses he just wanted something he could go hunting on. Well wouldn't you know he was the one that bought the horse. He didn't get along well with her and spent quite a bit of money sending her to trainers. Had he not been lying to himself and paid attention to what I said and wrote in the catalog then he could have bought a nice gentle horse he could enjoy.
Fair enough What you said is 150% right, I personally couldn't begin to think of trying to sell an unsuitable horse to somebody. I sold a gelding a few years back and was told by the buyers that it was the first horse they had tried who was genuinely quiet. They were after trying a few dozen horses. I'm not a dealer, but I couldn't imagine risking injury to somebody by selling unsuitable horses to them. Self respect goes far, if your going to do that to somebody you have to know it's going to bite you in the arse tenfold.
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    01-26-2012, 03:51 PM
  #20
Trained
My point was that some people are thier own worst enemy. They either aren't honest with themselves about thier riding ability or they make excuses for the horse. Then when they get burned they blame everyone but themselves.
     

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