Horses in winter for novel scene - The Horse Forum
 2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 19 Old 11-01-2011, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 24
• Horses: 0
Horses in winter for novel scene

I am a historical novelist seeking some advice or another opinion. I'm hoping someone can help me. My novel's time period is the Late Roman Empire. I have a scene in my romantic historical that takes place in the month of December in Gaul (France). My hero and heroine go riding together and on a impulse decide to race their horses to a point through a wood.

I am not a stranger to horseback riding, but I'm not a seasoned rider. I have an acquaintance who owns a horse and rides more and who read this chapter and told me people who know horses will not run a horse in the winter because of the effect of the cold ground on their hooves and the air on their lungs unless of course, they have to run for their lives. She thinks I should have my horses walking not racing. I also have the hero lifting my heroine from her saddle onto his afterward to kiss her. <g> My friend says not likely that this would be very difficult, which may be very true. I've never tried it. LOL She thinks they should dismount, each hold his horse's reins, then kiss.

I really like the "romantic" aspect of this scene and hate to give it up, but I don't want people thinking how absurd that they are riding like this in the winter. If one knows as much as I do, it would be missed but if it is too "Hollywood" and not true to possibility, then I will change it.

Can anyone comment on this situation or give some advice? This forum is really nice. I'm glad I found it. I've read some threads and enjoyed some of the pictures posted as well. Thanks, Cinzia
cinzia8 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 19 Old 11-01-2011, 12:55 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,779
• Horses: 2
My horses run outside all by themselves just for the fun of it in the winter. Living in Alberta where the temperatures easily get to -40 degrees C, I think that is colder than ancient Gaul. I've gone outside in -20 and they are running around, plowing through the snow and having a ball.





Go ahead and let your hero and heroine race their horses. It's not going to hurt them. This isn't a marathon race across the arctic, it's a friendly race between two lovers.
palominolover and Corporal like this.

Sometimes I wrestle with my demons. Sometimes we just snuggle.
Red Gate Farm is offline  
post #3 of 19 Old 11-01-2011, 12:58 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: East Central Illinois
Posts: 7,109
• Horses: 3
Agreed. Welcome to the forum! Send us more questions, bc we'll be happy to critique. There isn't actually a "Historical Fiction Police Force," so you'll just be satisfying yourself, anyway. =D
Corporal is offline  
post #4 of 19 Old 11-01-2011, 03:05 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Chino Valley, AZ
Posts: 15,545
• Horses: 1
As a writer myself, I can see where you'd like the idea of the hero lifting his love from the back of her horse onto his horse...but in all practicality, unless she's a midget and he's built like Dwayne Johnson or Arnold Schwartzenegger, it ain't gonna happen. At least not without some major hernia action going on.

Without actually reading the scene, it's difficult to suggest an alternate course for the scene to take. I'll do my best, though.

After your characters reach the end of their race, maybe have your hero complain that the heroine won unfairly because his horse had a stone in its hoof. He dismounts to prove his point (there is no stone, but being the hero, he has to make *some* excuse ) and the heroine starts to dismount to join him. He moves to help her dismount (what self-respecting hero wouldn't?!). She swings her leg over the front of the saddle (assuming she's riding astride), he grabs her waist and lowers her to stand so that she's effectively trapped between her horse and him. He then leans down and kisses her...yadda yadda yadda...etc, etc, etc.

^^This is just a rough sketch/idea. Again, without reading what you already have written, I don't know how well it would fit or anything.

http://i42.tinypic.com/140y8lj.png
Do not tell me I can't...because I will show you that I can.
DraftyAiresMum is offline  
post #5 of 19 Old 11-01-2011, 05:04 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Higgins, TX. YeeHaw!!
Posts: 22,141
• Horses: 24
Agreed about the running in the winter time. I've actually seen my horses in the pasture run for the fun of it in the cold than they do in warmer weather. IMHO, the biggest thing to worry about when running a horse in the winter time is to try to avoid any bad footing (slick and icy or large sections of rough ground where the ground was muddy, then rutted or torn up by hooves and then re-frozen into large holes, ruts, and peaks). If the area they'll be running down is smooth and not slippery, then no problem.

As to picking her off the saddle...that would greatly depend on many factors.

1) The hero would have to be very strong...and on a very strong horse.
2) The heroine would have to be a waif of a woman, hovering around 100 pounds
3) They would have to have their horses smashed very close together so that he wasn't reaching out to pick her up. Picture yourself trying to pick up something heavy, you don't plant your feet a stride away and try to pick it up with outstretched arms. You get right in close and pick it up against your body. That would be the only real way for the guy to pick the girl up.

Always remember that feeling of looking at a big, open country over the ears of a good horse, seeing a new trail unwind ahead of you, and that ever-spectacular view from the top of the ridge!!! Follow my training blog: http://robertsontraining.blogspot.com/
smrobs is offline  
post #6 of 19 Old 11-01-2011, 06:25 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,613
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by cinzia8 View Post
I am not a stranger to horseback riding, but I'm not a seasoned rider. I have an acquaintance who owns a horse and rides more and who read this chapter and told me people who know horses will not run a horse in the winter because of the effect of the cold ground on their hooves and the air on their lungs unless of course, they have to run for their lives.
I really doubt they worried about such things in that day and age.
ponyboy is offline  
post #7 of 19 Old 11-02-2011, 12:28 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 24
• Horses: 0
Wow! What a beautiful horse. The pictures are fabulous. Thanks for your insight. After seeing these pics, a friendly little winter race in a novel can't hurt. Yea!
Cinzia
cinzia8 is offline  
post #8 of 19 Old 11-02-2011, 12:45 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 24
• Horses: 0
As for lifting my lady from her horse, I guess not; but, I like the suggestion made by DraftyAiresMom for the revision and the logic presented by Smrobs. I like to learn new things. This has helped a lot.

Oh, is it realistic to kiss side by side (facing same way or opposite direction)? LOL This question still fits under horse talk, right? <g>
Cinzia
cinzia8 is offline  
post #9 of 19 Old 11-02-2011, 12:48 AM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 38,999
• Horses: 2
They didn't have stirrups in general use until sometime after the 600's.
I do not know if Roman women even rode horses. They may have ridden Jennets (like a mule), but don't know if they actually rode astride.
tinyliny is offline  
post #10 of 19 Old 11-02-2011, 01:20 AM
Showing
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Chino Valley, AZ
Posts: 15,545
• Horses: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by cinzia8 View Post
Oh, is it realistic to kiss side by side (facing same way or opposite direction)? LOL This question still fits under horse talk, right? <g>
Cinzia
Watch any classic romantic movie (and even some that aren't romantic) that involves horses and you'll see them kissing from the saddle. Man From Snowy River (and Return to Snowy River...two of my all-time favorite movies), The Princess Bride.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tinyliny View Post
They didn't have stirrups in general use until sometime after the 600's.
I do not know if Roman women even rode horses. They may have ridden Jennets (like a mule), but don't know if they actually rode astride.
I get the point about the stirrups, tiny, but I think a little bit of artistic license may be taken with how and what the heroine of the story rides in this case...especially if the heroine of this story is anything like the heroines of my stories (not at all a "damsel in distress" type lol).

http://i42.tinypic.com/140y8lj.png
Do not tell me I can't...because I will show you that I can.
DraftyAiresMum is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dressage Scene in Wellington / Palm Beach area Zimpatico Dressage 4 05-21-2011 02:57 PM
Do you use winter hoods on your horses? Piaffe Horse Grooming 27 12-05-2010 11:38 PM
Crime scene tape? Seattle Horse Training 8 08-01-2010 07:07 PM
My horses and their first snow!!! Winter wonderland! HalfPass Horse Pictures 14 12-12-2009 05:37 PM
Kathleen on the scene! KGImages Member Journals 5 01-29-2009 02:44 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome