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post #11 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 03:29 AM
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I am left wordless...

Except for a few..

You cannot judge a breed from a few. Every breed has its characteristics, but do do blood lines etc. you could go on all day. It's not the horse, it's how they are raised to be around people that count.

I suggest you get the owner to show you how to handle them.
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post #12 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 03:33 AM
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Have you ever met a horse who would walk " on raw eggs" with a little kid on board, wouldn't go a step too fast with an adult scared beginner, but wouldn't hesitate to make an" I used to rodeo, I can ride any horse" big mouthed guy bite the dust? That's a thoroughbred for you.
You want to become a trainer, you'll have to learn to appreciate an intelligent, highly in-tune with it's surroundings and human, creature which is bred for heart and speed.
Once you'll convince this creature of your good intentions and your quality as leader, it will give you its all and then some.
Change your attitude towards them, learn, and keep in mind that they're not brain dead, and try to see their good points first.
After all, you wouldn't have your quarter horse as it is if it wasn't for thoroughbreds, or Arabians, for that matter.
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post #13 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 04:42 AM
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AlexS--thank you for your advice
Welcome. I didn't appreciate what you said, and I am sure you are hearing others say the same thing.
But as you seem to be hearing me. Then you need to correct the crazy TBs, if you do not, as with any horse, they will push for more.
I think it's likely that your barn is over feeding or over stalling the horses and so that's why you are seeing issues, but as that's out of your control.... well you need to be the boss with the horse.

I asked you a bunch of questions in my earlier comment, you didn't answer them. I would like to try to help you.

You can use a chain that goes in the normal hoops on the halter, but under the chin.

You can use a sharp jerk on the lead rope that goes into the chest, rather than to the ground, as that would encourage the horse to go up.

You should lead out to pasture based on herd dynamics.

I can see you are getting defensive, but I would like to help you, if you'd let me.
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post #14 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 04:54 AM
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I missed the brain dead comment, I'd suggest it's the opposite, and the QH that can be stalled for 2 days and calmly walk out, might be that, and so why I wouldn't own one.

Different people look for different things in horses. Some are hotter than others. The horsemanship behind each horse isn't too different though, we still need to be the leader to each.

As I think you are already shutting down, send me a private message, and I am willing to offer advise and suggestions, if you are willing to hear them.

My former mare would rear every time she was lead out when I boarded her. She was absolutely the alpha mare, she tried to dominate me all the time. I went there one morning, she was in the last stall, and so lead out last. She reared a lot, full upright and ran circles until she got to her field. She was the worst horse I have ever had the displeasure of meeting, and I do not excuse her behavior. But the next morning I went there, and let her out first, not one rear, not nothing except for the prancing walk. She was the hottest horse I have ever met. The barn staff started letting her out first, and I didn't get another phone call about her.

And honestly, I hated that horse, you want to talk about crazy horses, she was 100% crazy. As I don't have massive income but would like a jumper, I've always owned TBs, she was the only crazy one - the rest have been puppy dogs.

Lucas, my current horse, finds it far too much effort to lift his head from what he is grazing on. When I ride, I use more leg than he does.

There are the odd nuts horses, but usually it's the feed or upkeep of them that causes that.
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post #15 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 04:57 AM
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I am sorry but the way you have described thoroughbreds is totally wrong. They are not my favourite breed or anything but I do work with them for a living.

They are by no means often dangerous or act without thinking they are actually highly intelligent (like every other breed). Out of the hundreds I have dealt with I would only say maybe 3 I felt were truly dangerous and I couldn't trust them.

They are all individual horses and act differently according to personalities and the training they have received. I would deal with bad or spooky behaviour the same way you would any other horse.

Just like any other horse they are going to feed off your nerves if you are not confident in handling them.
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post #16 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 10:36 AM
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No. Just no. I own a thoroughbred. I've never in my life owned a sweeter, more caring horse. He stands perfectly for me, in the stable, is a gentleman to ride, and I would feel at ease, letting him care for a toddler. And this horse is only four. So I really don't think you have any right to generalize the breed the way you did. Reading your post made my very upset actually.
Every horse is different, and just because the ones you deal with act a little high strung, doesn't mean every thoroughbred is. It also depends on what they are fed, how often they are ridden, and where they are kept.
As for your remark about them not using the brains, I think this is totally wrong. I find them to be extremely intelligent animals. Every thoroughbred I've come across acts almost human. I can almost feel them looking me up and down with every new one I meet! Its the only breed I find this happens with!

I would understand if you hated them, and you kept it to yourself, but to shout these generalizations out to everyone is just plain rude in my opinion.
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post #17 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 12:10 PM
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ive owned 2 ottb. if your nervouse your making them the same. breathe and just stay calm. have your BO help you learn how to handle them. they are sensative sometimes though my gelding was a dead head and i could do anything to him.
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It's funny that this thread should start. Yesterday while I was at the barn, it took 45 MINUTES for a girl to oil her OTTBs feet!!!!! It nearly gave me an aneurysm to mind my own business and not say or do something. The horse was tied in the aisle because 'something' outside was making it spook. For heavens sakes! Anyway, that's aside. I spent most of my working horse career with ON the track TBs, I was foreman of two barns, so I've been there, done that.

My advice to you, is when one of these horses gets stupid on you, DON'T DO CIRCLES, keep moving FORWARD. If you have to, slide the lead rope over the nose, but keep moving forward. TBs need soothing, you need to convince them that it's alright all the while taking charge of their body, sometimes it's like the brain disengages from the body. Start doing circles and they will just circle faster and faster setting you up to get hurt, plus setting the horse up to step all over itself. I find humming a repetitive two tone tune seems to act well while your leading them FORWARD to your destination.

TBs can be one of the most rewarding breeds to work with because I find that they have a very sponge like brain that can absorb information and learn very fast and RETAIN that information and become very pleasurable horses to work with. Use every opportunity to make your experiences with these horses a learning curve for both you and the horse.

ETA : if I soothed my QH like I would a TB, he'd be a nightmare! You tell a QH, you convince a TB.

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post #19 of 38 Old 08-25-2013, 12:29 PM
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Please don't tell my TB mare that she is supposed to be crazy and dangerous or even mare-ish for that matter. She is one of the sweetest, most willing horses I have met.

I agree with others - the TBs you are working with are either picking up on your nerves or possibly having environmental/feed/stabling issues that are causing them to be more hyped up.
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In fact, I've considered getting a second horse.....a TB, to do English on......oh oh oh the dark side!!!!
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