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        02-17-2009, 12:02 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    I'd like to add that eventually, when I have land and the money and time to do this, I'd like to buy horses from auctions, work with them a little, then resell them. I wouldn't be doing it to make money, just to help the horses. I'm sure there will be a few that I end up keeping.

    I think I'll be able to do that with no problem. I guess it depends what you buy the horse for. If I buy a horse to sell it, that's different than buying it because you like/want it.
         
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        02-17-2009, 03:18 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Wow Great responses everyone!
    I find it really interesting to see how everyone, even those of you that buy/sell horses for a living differentiate in your thinking and your history.

    Xilikegg0, I would like to do the same thing. I would like to start with a horse from the KP and see how it goes. Even if he can only be saved for a few hours or days, I'll feel like I made a difference in his/her life and he/she was able to be loved.

    I might want to try the whole retraining thing, but I am no where near experienced enough to do it by myself.
         
        02-17-2009, 04:34 PM
      #13
    Super Moderator
    I used to want to run a rescue. But after rescuing Anna (my dog) and loosing her and after dealing with all of the expenses and the hard work w/ my guys here... I just don't think I can stomache it. Its so sad and painful. I mean, the feeling you get when you've brought them back, Like my old black horse, he has been the most loyal and devoted horse anyone could ever own, well... actually all of mine have really turned out great (for me anyway-not in everyones standards...) and it is awesome to be able to tell people I've had Pistol for 22 years... but... I dunno... I really thought a rescue was my goal in life... maybe I could do just one horse at a time.... not a bunch though....
         
        02-17-2009, 05:30 PM
      #14
    Trained
    I buy and sell horses all the time... I also get lent horses to use for a while, and give them back once I don't have a sue for them. I've had about 5 horses in the last two years!

    I love each and every one of them, BUT if I'm not using them, I think it's cruel to hold on to them when they could be out there with someone who will love them every bit as much as I do, and ride them all the time, and give them the work they deserve. My passion is training... Helping a horse who has been ruined/traumatised/not educated become something that someone can enjoy and love. To do this, I have to sell horses.

    My first pony was an 11h Welsh mare. She was a cow! She taught me hopw to stay on through just about anything. But, there was no way I could have kept riding her! I just got too big, and I learnt all I could from her. So I sold her. She had a baby, who shows successfully, and now packs around other little kids with much better behaviour than she had when I got her. To me, that was a win/win situation.

    If I don't sell horses, I can never progress, and I never want to stop progressing. New problems to solve, new obstacles to overcome, new heights of performance to reach... I'm always aiming for more. I have ONE forever horse, my boy Wildey, but I do realise that I have learnt all I can from him. So I let other people learn on him, There are two girlsat the moment pleasure riding him and learning a whole bunch doing it, and another lady rides him at MGA competitions, and he is teaching her loads. I am always present when people are riding him, as I know him inside out, and it makes for new refreshing work for Wildey, a great oppurtunity for the kids who ride him that can't afford a horse, and my peice of mind that I will always have a say in how he is treated and where he will end up.

    Apart from him, I enjoy the challenge of getting a new horse, and making something of it. I bought an ASH gelding for 2k when he was 4, and borught him up to A grade jumping, and was told he had the potential to make 1* in less than a year if I campaigned him at open events. I am not into eventing, at least not open level, so I sold him on to a girl who wants to go up through the grades in eventing, for 6k. The profit allowed me to buy a well bred prospect fior my next horse, which is Bundy. He has amazing potential for a lot fo things, and I think he may be my favourite horse ever apart from Wildey, he has such a cool mind, yet I know that I will eventually sell him, to allow someone else to have the joy of riding and competitng this amazing horse. I do think he is the best horse I have owned, potential wise. And the profit from Vodka allowed me to buy him, and so on and so forth. I want to keep learning, and new horses allows me to acheive this.

    That being said, I ALWAYS make sure horses I sell go to good homes, and maintin contact with the new owners.

    I've taken two ponies on lease/lend agreements... One the owner did not have the heart to sell him but wasn;t usign him... So I took and and trained him up to be a really handy games pony, and a kid safe pony. The other was a family friends pony who wasn't being used, and again, I put the work into him to make a decent games pony, and a kid safe horse, and a definite show prospect, then gave him back.
         
        02-17-2009, 05:30 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    A few of my horses, cattle, hogs, what ever species are my pets and stay with me forever. The rest are livestock and are raised to be sold to provide income to pay the bills so the rest have a home. I know 1000's of people some become good freinds some are just people I know. Animals are the same.
         
        02-17-2009, 06:43 PM
      #16
    Trained
    This is all so interesting!

    I really like seeing the different view points. My passion is horses, I love working with them and seeing the progess I make (or don't make) with them and seeing what their potential is. On that note, i'm still new to horses. I only got my first horse almost 2 years ago. Before that I was just taking lessons or leasing a horse. I never had the chance to do what I wanted or a horse to call my own. Maybe that's part of the reason why I am the way I am with horses.

    I guess another reason why I don't look at horses in the investment or business sense is because I don't need to. My fiance is a successful software engineer/developer as well as a web design guy, so we generate a bit of money through that and have our horses as our escape.

    Those of you that are in the selling business, did you just decide to start buying, training and selling horses, or was someone you know (trainer, friend family) already in that and you saw/liked it and continued to do it?
         
        02-17-2009, 11:15 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by appylover31803    
    I guess another reason why I don't look at horses in the investment or business sense is because I don't need to. My fiance is a successful software engineer/developer as well as a web design guy, so we generate a bit of money through that and have our horses as our escape.
    That definitely makes a huge difference! My husband is talking about getting a job in another city/state which means that I would have to leave the barn where I work. If that were to happen I haven't decided what I want to do. (there are just too many horrid BO's to work for and my situation here is pretty much perfect) I've entertained the idea of "settling down" and getting something really green but fancy to take up the levels and just be my own personal show horse. There's a part of that that just seems kind of weird though!

    I'm not sure why I decided to start buying/selling. I think I just wanted to own a horse instead of only riding other people's and the thought crossed my mind. And then my boss started talking about how there's a niche in the pony business and a need for good ponies. Not many kids are experienced enough to train them well, not many adults are small enough to ride them. The majority of the kids who ride are little girls who are pony sized. And I just love ponies! It seemed practical, a good business move, teaches me a lot, gets my name out there as a trainer, but really, just a very VERY fun idea! I mean, a job that ensures that I get to own and ride a cool horse every day and take it to shows? And it makes me money? That's pretty cool....
         
        02-21-2009, 01:58 PM
      #18
    Chat Moderator
    It costs to keep a horse - time and money. If I can't get the performance or enjoyment from the horse there is no point in keeping it. There is an old adage that I believe in: "It costs just as much to keep a good horse as it does to keep a bad one" - I think a bad one costs more when you take into account the frustration or lack of enjoyment my horse is supposed to bring.

    I've learned years ago to separate my heart from my head when it comes to buying or selling a horse.
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    I was taught the same thing as a child only I was taught marry a woman not livestock. Meaning don't get attached to any animal. I was also taught to be prepared to put one down if and only of it needed it, and that is ever an easy thing to do. It is kinder for them to have a quick death than suffering and I will strongly defend that postition until I die. Tatsaid some animals of any species would be easier to sell than
    Others.
         
        02-21-2009, 02:14 PM
      #19
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by CacheDawnTaxes    
    I really like what iridehorses posted. It's interesting because we all come from different walks of life, we all come with different life experiences and stories so the answer is going to be different as many times as there are people who answer it
    Exactly! I was born on a farm so at a very early age I learned that your friend the cow could be dinner at any given time. Yes, you cry but you eat the meatloaf
    I've only sold 3 horses and it was tough every time. Its knowing that they will be in a good home that gets you through. I've been pretty particular who I sold them to.
    When I bred dogs and had puppy's to sell once a year, I learned pretty quick not to name them or get attached in any way. I did the best I could in the short time I had them to make them sweet friendly puppies, then sent them on to their new life.
         
        02-21-2009, 02:22 PM
      #20
    Chat Moderator
    I wonder why farm kids are considered cold and unfeeling about things like that. Or is it just I am that way?
         

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