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        08-20-2008, 02:57 AM
      #11
    Started
    Shoot, there are lots of sexual references that can be made just by walking in a barn. Don't worry about "what people will think" about you looking. Haven't you heard of Sheath Cleaning? Lol, Oh dear, what would they think then??? 8)

    Shoot, the horse won't care if you look, just don't sneak up and touch him, he might kick yah.
         
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        08-20-2008, 05:01 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    Ok, I think I can safely say he is not a stallion. I guess we'll just have to put up with his studdy behaviour. I've just found out by researching his brand that he was a breeding stallion some years ago which could be why he acts studdy. He may not have the equipment anymore but he just remembers what he did when he was a stallion.
         
        08-20-2008, 01:13 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Just a couple of clarifications.

    Crypthorchid horses are not proud cut. And it's very unethical for a vet to remove just one testicle and not go after the undescended one. While there are may people who say it happens that a vet just removed one, it's very very rare and would leave lots of questions about the ethics of the castrating veterinarian.

    Proud cut is an old layman's term and though it used to be said that "the vet missed something", that is generally not the case. Testosterone is not just produced in the testicles and it is what causes the studdy behavior so even "properly gelded" horses can act studdish and are often termed "proud cut". Simply learning the behavior prior to being gelded also can lead to studdish behavior even after gelding. With the advent of anesthesia for for gelding horses, missing the epidimus isn't a common problem because you aren't trying to get in and castrate a fighting horse.
         
        08-20-2008, 01:30 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    Thanks for that explanation I did not know all of that-with my Morgan his original owner called it proud cut and maybe I just assumed? Many years ago= and the term never came up for me again until this question was asked-he had been left a stallion for at least 5 years-huge chest, big arched neck and all the other stallion-y-personality traits whenever a female was in smelling distance, he never stopped behaving like a stallion and was a serious handfull for an inexperienced person-he went to a much more expereinced person.
         
        08-20-2008, 04:31 PM
      #15
    Super Moderator
    ...all I said was you have cryptorchid and you have proud cut... I never said they were the same thing.

    http://www.vetpro.co.nz:888/Vet%20Ta...chid_horse.htm
         

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