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  • 146 cm into hh for horses
  • 146 centimetres in horses hands

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    05-28-2012, 09:07 AM
  #11
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
Height doesn't make a pony. Being a pony is a different body type to being a horse. The proportions are different. Many breeds are still considered horses even if they are under 14.2hh - Quarter horses are often 13hh, and are still horses. Caspians and Haflingers are horses no matter what height they are. The same goes for pony breeds that may go over the 14.2hh mark - they are still ponies, not horses.
Thank you. A common misconception. Our Paint mares are all 14.2-15.0 and would be terribly annoyed with anyone calling them ponies
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    05-28-2012, 09:11 AM
  #12
Trained
I have 2 horses that are 14.0 and 14.2 hands. The good thing is, at bigger local shows, they have pony classes and we can totally kill the competition in those classes. So I can run in Pony, Horse AND Open classes. HeHeHe.
     
    05-28-2012, 10:49 AM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
Height doesn't make a pony. Being a pony is a different body type to being a horse. The proportions are different. Many breeds are still considered horses even if they are under 14.2hh - Quarter horses are often 13hh, and are still horses. Caspians and Haflingers are horses no matter what height they are. The same goes for pony breeds that may go over the 14.2hh mark - they are still ponies, not horses.

Not entirely true.
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po·ny   [poh-nee] Show IPA noun, plural po·nies, verb, po·nied, po·ny·ing.
Noun
1.
A small horse of any of several breeds, usually not higher at the shoulder than 14 1 / 2 hands (58 in./146 cm).
2.
A horse of any small type or breed.
3.
Slang . A literal translation or other text, used illicitly as an aid in schoolwork or while taking a test; crib.
4.
Something small of its kind.
5.
A small glass for liquor.
I believe that the definition is also different based on where you are (eg. Europe vs. the U.S.)
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    05-28-2012, 03:02 PM
  #14
Yearling
Ok, if a Quarter Horses is a horse, no matter the height. Where do Quarter Ponies come from? I thought QP's were QH's that never made it to 14.2 hh.
Aren't there registries out there that won't accept anything under 14.2? AQHA for one TWHBEA for another..... I could be wrong, LOL It wouldn't be the first time.

ETA: Don't most shows require 14.2+ for showing in horse categories??
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    05-28-2012, 03:12 PM
  #15
Yearling
If under 14.2 is pony sized, I've seen a LOT of QH ponies. Hehe
     
    05-28-2012, 03:13 PM
  #16
Yearling
ApHC wont register if they're too short, I know that haha. I can't recall the exact number though.
     
    05-28-2012, 03:15 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Rascaholic    
Ok, if a Quarter Horses is a horse, no matter the height. Where do Quarter Ponies come from? I thought QP's were QH's that never made it to 14.2 hh.
Aren't there registries out there that won't accept anything under 14.2? AQHA for one TWHBEA for another..... I could be wrong, LOL It wouldn't be the first time.

ETA: Don't most shows require 14.2+ for showing in horse categories??
I've never heard of AQHA not accepting horses under 14.2. My horse is JUST 14.2. And I've seen a LOT of AQHA 14.1 horses
     
    05-28-2012, 03:20 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Under 14.2 are considered ponies. Yes there are many quarter horses that are pony size :) There are quarter horses that can be 17 hands also, and in my opinion they are TB's with a quarter horse tossed in the lineage.
     
    05-28-2012, 03:42 PM
  #19
Yearling
Well, I said I could be wrong :P
     
    05-28-2012, 06:11 PM
  #20
Yearling
I think the confusion over what's a horse or pony happened because English riding comes from the UK, and at the time the first show organizations were forming the only horses 14.2 or under in the UK were in fact pony breeds.

But it's pretty simple... If you're showing any horse under 14.2 can enter pony classes. If you're NOT showing then your horse is only a pony if their breed has the word "pony" in its name.
     

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