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    08-28-2012, 10:36 AM
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how many people can feel it ?

So another thing I am curious about...and it is hard for me to explain.

I always thought being horse people we could ALL feel the horse underneath us and tell if the horse is straight, where his hooves are, and what part of his body is being held up, etc.

But then I had talked to a couple of people who have been riding for 10+ years and some told me they still can't feel when the horse is out of alignment, or where his hooves are , etc etc.

Is that normal for people who ride not to beable to feel when there horses hind is out of place or when the horses shoulder is not out of the way to allow the ribs to move etc??

Would really like to know how many people can really feel the different body parts out of place just by simply sitting in the saddle or standing and looking at them.

Just curious :)
     
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    08-28-2012, 10:51 AM
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Foal
I am pretty good with feeling what my horse's body is doing, mostly because my old horse would always drop his shoulder, but I absolutely can not feel what lead a horse is on just by feeling. I'm working on it with my instructor, but it seems like that will always be a problem. :/
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    08-28-2012, 11:07 AM
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Trained
Not feel or not care?

For example, I was taught to time my leg cues to the horse's shoulder movement. But while that might be useful for training, the truth is my horses no longer care. If you pressure with a leg, they will respond regardless of when. Since the rest of my family refuses to care, the horses have learned not to care either.

Same for going 'straight'. Getting a horse to go very straight can be a challenge, but getting the horse to go mostly straight from A to B is not. How much you care will depend on what you want to do with the horse. For the rest of my family, this is 'straight':

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    08-28-2012, 11:17 AM
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Green Broke
Feeling a horse is a learned/trained skill, so yes I think it's very normal for many riders out there to not know. No offense to the pleasure riders but those are the ones I see most often like that - the riders who never take lessons or get any coaching who just want to tack up and ride. Nothing at all wrong with that but it is just a different skill level.
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    08-28-2012, 11:20 AM
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Green Broke
It is important to keep furthering your education to learn what to look for. Lessons and clinics can be very beneficial to know what to look for.
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    08-28-2012, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bsms    
Not feel or not care?

For example, I was taught to time my leg cues to the horse's shoulder movement. But while that might be useful for training, the truth is my horses no longer care. If you pressure with a leg, they will respond regardless of when. Since the rest of my family refuses to care, the horses have learned not to care either.

Same for going 'straight'. Getting a horse to go very straight can be a challenge, but getting the horse to go mostly straight from A to B is not. How much you care will depend on what you want to do with the horse. For the rest of my family, this is 'straight':
yes I know what you mean. It does depend on what that specific person wants, but I still find it odd everyone can't naturally feel it.

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Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
Feeling a horse is a learned/trained skill, so yes I think it's very normal for many riders out there to not know. No offense to the pleasure riders but those are the ones I see most often like that - the riders who never take lessons or get any coaching who just want to tack up and ride. Nothing at all wrong with that but it is just a different skill level.
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i wouldnt say its impossible to feel it all without lessons but you sure don't know how to fix it without lessons :)
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    08-28-2012, 11:55 AM
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Yearling
Yes I can feel my horse and my mother started teaching me that at a fairly young age (even though I'm sure it went through one ear and out the other at that time lol!). I think it is very very VERY important to feel and know where your horses body is in barrel racing. You have a lot of parts that need to BR in the correct place or it can cost you that winning run.

I am untuned to my horse all the way around.
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    08-28-2012, 12:12 PM
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Foal
First let me say I agree with everyone above, and the next thing is ...I'm not surprised how many times do you see people that are completely off balance and finally I can't take it anymore and tell them"uuhh your crooked,off balance" and they always say"oh am I?" and I just think how do you NOT feel that! I always do a check before the first step and then the first two. But as they said above, lessons and clinics, my sister and I have been riding for 40 plus years and still go to clinics and take lessons "tune ups" if nothing else. I always walk away learning something. Sooooo I say keep up the good work!
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    08-28-2012, 12:18 PM
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I can feel a lot, but even after 12 years I cannot feel always where each hoof is. Sometimes I get mixed up on the hinds becuase it's a bit counterintuitive;

When the horse's hip pushes your hip up on a certain side , I tend to think that this is his foot going forward, but actually, it's the foot , which has already gone forward, pushing off of the ground and the horse's belly tracking over that foot, so the foot is just about to go back, not reach under , as my intuition wants me to think.

What is often amazing to me is that people are so unaware of where their horse's THOUGHT is. Is he still with you or far away? That is something to pay attention to, in my book.
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    08-28-2012, 12:36 PM
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What is often amazing to me is that people are so unaware of where their horse's THOUGHT is. Is he still with you or far away? That is something to pay attention to, in my book.
i didnt even want to open those can of worms I see that way to often
     

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