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    03-05-2013, 09:00 AM
  #11
Yearling
No, I know you can purchase vaccines. The problem is that I have seen a number of horses come up positive for a disease that is prevented by vaccination because the owners vaccinate themselves and then forgot this year. I have also had too much experience with rabies virus to ever want to be around another non-vaccinated animal in my life. In end you can vaccinate yourself but your vet and the CDC won't believe you did it because its not in a medical record.
     
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    03-05-2013, 09:11 AM
  #12
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Originally Posted by waresbear    
I would just flat out tell them, don't have to say it meanly, say it matter-of-factly. If they take offensive, oh well, who needs friends that keep animals in such condition and thinks it's ok?
I completely agree and that is the way I'd go about it myself. I wouldn't want to associate with people who don't properly care for their animals.

The vaccine thing - just something small to add. I give my own as my family has for the last 50 years. As far as records go, I keep the label from the vaccines (most have a peel off sticker with a date/shot expiration and place to write when it was given) as well as the receipts with date purchased and delivery confirmation from the fedex man that gets put in each horse's records.
     
    03-05-2013, 09:16 AM
  #13
Yearling
MF you are doing vaccines right, its just most people don't do it that way in my experience.

For the original topic, you can't fix stupid but you can educate the willing. If they want to learn then its worth it because they probably will get other horses during their lives and you are improving those future horses lives.
     
    03-05-2013, 09:16 AM
  #14
Started
Sorry to be mean about this, but while you wait for right moment, those horses are hungry.

Call law enforcement.

And I am not friendly with anyone that does this to their animals. Ever.

And wouldn't be surprised to see that those people had been in trouble before for starving animals.
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    03-05-2013, 01:29 PM
  #15
Trained
Vaccines here have to be purchased from a vet and the vet has had to have seen the horse at some point in time, even if it was just a coggins. I give my own vaccines purchased from the vet clinic and they keep the records on my purchases, although I rarely use this vet, if it's something simple as a coggins I will so I buy vaccines from them.
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    03-05-2013, 05:09 PM
  #16
Green Broke
I keep logs on all four of our horses even for the short time we've had them. My wife even keeps a daily entry on progress that we and each horse make to keep track of what is working and what isn't.

I have built a few heavily modified off-road vehicles for trail riding and got in the habit of keeping records to know what vehicle I got parts off of to put on each one I was building..They were what some call a Frankenstein with parts from so many different kinds of vehicles to make it do what I wanted to do.
I am building a 94 Jeep Wrangler now that has parts from 9 different kinds of vehicles. Lol
     
    03-05-2013, 05:26 PM
  #17
Yearling
Honestly I don't care if the vet believes I vaccinated my animal or not. I would not be foolish enough to give the Rabies vac myself...THAT is asking for trouble....but with the other vaccines like West Nile? I do that myself. I keep a health and vaccine record for ALL of my animals, and if there is a sticker that comes on the vial, I stick it either on the record itself or keep it in a little envelope section that many record books come with. None of the boarding facilities I have boarded at have had a problem with this, and as far as I know, none of my animals are or have at any given point been diseased.

There are responsible individuals who remember to vaccinate yearly, and I've found that many veterinary clinics send out a reminder for the Rabies vaccine. Otherwise I've found it best to pick a month, and just get everybody their rabies vaccines that month. Saves on thinking. ;)

Back to the situation at hand though...I'm not sure there is a way to politely ask if the horses have been inoculated.... *scratches head*. Maybe saying "Geez, I was thinking of just giving my horse the West Nile shot myself, but I'm a little nervous to stick a needle in my horse. Do you or your brother have any experience giving shots???"

Or just assume they are not being taken care of, and keep your own horses safe. I can't find any shame in that!
     
    03-05-2013, 08:11 PM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Palomine    
Sorry to be mean about this, but while you wait for right moment, those horses are hungry.

Call law enforcement.

And I am not friendly with anyone that does this to their animals. Ever.

And wouldn't be surprised to see that those people had been in trouble before for starving animals.
Law enforcement won't do a thing if the horses have food, water and shelter.

I've tried several times to get law enforcement involved with skin and bone horses. One reciept from the feed store and a "He's skinny because he's 30 years old", and the officer walks away.
     
    03-06-2013, 09:14 AM
  #19
Started
Ain't that the truth ^.

Some cousins of mine had a gelding a few years ago that had a cancerous tumor (vet confirmed) in its throat, cutting off it's ability to eat well. Poor horse was literally skin and bones, probably weighed less that 600 pounds and was at least 15-2 hands and big-boned... I called animal control several times and they would never do anything because the horse had feed, water, and shelter. The horse was finally put down when more people (lots more) started calling and it became an issue that the AC officers couldn't very well ignore.
     

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