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    03-04-2013, 04:49 PM
  #11
Trained
IR = Insulin resistant

NSC = Non Structural Carbs
     
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    03-04-2013, 04:56 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
IR = Insulin resistant

NSC = Non Structural Carbs
Cool, thanks. I just consulted Dr. Google and got the same answer. Had no idea NSC existed...or knew I needed to worry about it.
     
    03-04-2013, 05:47 PM
  #13
Trained
Oops, sorry....I should have explained.
IR is similar to type II diabetes in humans. Certain breeds are predisposed, ponies, Arabs, for example, the famous easy keepers in general. Once overloaded with sugars means high risk for laminitis/founder.
NSC's you want as low as possible for an IR horse, around 11% for all feed given.
As examples: oats:44%, corn 73%, the average pelleted feed anywhere from 11-35%, Omolene a whopping 40%. Grass hay 13%, alfalfa 11%, grain hays 20-22%.
Grass as in pasture is even trickier, after a cold night on a sunny day super high, stressed grass very high, short, drought.
It doesn't help that man is planting grass for production, I.e. Milk or meat. Hence my wish for natural pasture.....
     
    03-04-2013, 05:56 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
Oops, sorry....I should have explained.
IR is similar to type II diabetes in humans. Certain breeds are predisposed, ponies, Arabs, for example, the famous easy keepers in general. Once overloaded with sugars means high risk for laminitis/founder.
NSC's you want as low as possible for an IR horse, around 11% for all feed given.
As examples: oats:44%, corn 73%, the average pelleted feed anywhere from 11-35%, Omolene a whopping 40%. Grass hay 13%, alfalfa 11%, grain hays 20-22%.
Grass as in pasture is even trickier, after a cold night on a sunny day super high, stressed grass very high, short, drought.
It doesn't help that man is planting grass for production, I.e. Milk or meat. Hence my wish for natural pasture.....
You may want to research this as many of the things you are talking about I have seen addressed in some of the stuff I have been reading. It may be the answer. The studies I have been reading online are indicating an almost elimination of founder, colic and other metabolic disorders and hoof disorders. If not it is interesting to know. It is sure intriguing to be able to not be tied to the hay market...

Cheers!
Les
     
    03-04-2013, 06:41 PM
  #15
Trained
Off to meet Dr. Google....
     
    03-04-2013, 07:24 PM
  #16
Trained
There are other hydroponic systems. I would think that it would be better to look at many options before jumping into something. I have some info around here somewhere; I'll look for it.

Find a kid with large earring holes, dreds, and lots of tattoos. They may can refer you to a good hydroponics expert..........
     
    03-04-2013, 07:27 PM
  #17
Foal
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Originally Posted by Celeste    
Find a kid with large earring holes, dreds, and lots of tattoos. They may can refer you to a good hydroponics expert..........
I don't want my horses high!!! 'Course if you live in Colorado it may be the new answer to fodder issues.

Cheers!
Les
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    03-04-2013, 08:41 PM
  #18
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    03-04-2013, 09:22 PM
  #19
Trained
Fodder-Pro 2.0 Feed Systems & Accessories - FarmTek

This is the system that I have gotten junk mail about. They have a big lettuce growing system that they are always advertising. I had remembered that the lettuce growing thing was cheaper than the forage thing that has already been discussed. I always figured that if you have the system delivered to your house around here, you better either produce a lot of lettuce or be prepared to cut the local law enforcement in on your profits.

The forage growing system is very expensive; similar in price to the one already listed.
     
    03-04-2013, 09:31 PM
  #20
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Originally Posted by Celeste    
Fodder-Pro 2.0 Feed Systems & Accessories - FarmTek

This is the system that I have gotten junk mail about. They have a big lettuce growing system that they are always advertising. I had remembered that the lettuce growing thing was cheaper than the forage thing that has already been discussed. I always figured that if you have the system delivered to your house around here, you better either produce a lot of lettuce or be prepared to cut the local law enforcement in on your profits.

The forage growing system is very expensive; similar in price to the one already listed.
Yeah that is one of the commercial ones I was looking at. I am not planning on buying commercial but building my own...I am mostly looking at commercial for ideas. However, if you had a large herd to feed, commercial would be the way to go I think.
     

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