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    07-09-2013, 09:38 AM
Heels down, toes up and head up - I agree with Raven.

Never be nervous on or around horses. A nervous rider makes a nervous horse.

Please wear a helmet at all times when riding a horse. You never know what it is going to do or spook at.

If you see something you or the horse are uncomfortable with - start by just not looking at it, worrying about it and just completely ignore it. If you get nervous about something or if you are staring at something or keep looking over in a certain direction - then the horse is going to start to get nervous because according to your body language there is something over there or that object is supposed to be scary to him and he should do something about it - which is usually spook or get away from it quickly.

Horses are prey animals - they do not understand punishment. So if your horse is trying to nip at you - DO NOT hit it with your hand. What you should to is keep your elbow up or a carrot stick/crop and keep it in the place his mouth will be when he turns his head to nip at you. HE will run into it and HE with think, how dumb of me I did that.

DO lots of groundwork before you get on the horse. You want him listening to you and his attention and focus on you because if he isn't paying attention to you on the ground - there is absolutely no way he will listen to you on his back.

If something doesn't work - you either are asking the question wrong or asking the wrong question.

If you don't get it right the first time, try and try an try again until you get the slightest bit from what the horse asks. Then stop and let the horse soak it all in.

I can think of lots more to say but my mind is drawing a blank... I will give you more tips as I think of them!
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    07-09-2013, 10:57 AM
Thank you so much! This helps a lot!
    07-09-2013, 11:12 AM
Originally Posted by goop911    
Skyseternalangel: Thanks :)

Raven13: I want to know more about positioning of the trot, canter, and jumping. :)
Positioning at the trot and canter is pretty much the same as what I suggested for you. Although, depending on what riding style or what in particular you are trying to achieve you may lean forward slightly in the canter and use a half seat. Generally, you only do so if you are really trying to get the horse to move forward more or if you're riding a young or inexperienced horse that you don't want to be putting you're full weight on their back yet in a sitting position because their muscles aren't fully developed and prepared to carry your weight. So that's the "depending on what you're trying to achieve" part of it but it can also be what style of riding you're doing. Like when I first started riding, I took hunter/jumper lessons and it was always "get in a half seat down the long sides!" every single time I cantered. So I would stand slightly in the stirrups and lean forward slightly. But now that I'm taking lessons from a dressage/eventing instructor she prefers that I sit the canter and sit up tall and straight. I suggest that you just listen to what you're instructor tells you to do, since they see you ride, know their horses and what you are ready for/capable of.

When you trot: If it's sitting trot, the best advice I can give you is to relax. Kind of think of your butt and thighs melting into the saddle, or even better forget about the saddle altogether..try to melt into the horse. If your seat muscles (butt and thighs) are tense then you're going to bounce, if you think about relaxing you will move with the horse and at the very least bounce less. Don't get discouraged, sitting trot is hard for a lot of people and it takes a lot of energy from your core muscles, so you may not be able to do it very long at first. It also depends on how the horse moves, if they have a short choppy stride or a big, powerful springy stride you're going to have a harder time sitting the trot than if, say the horse has a smooth gliding stride.

When you're posting the trot just feel the rhythm, count it out loud 1,2 1,2 1,2 1,2. Do you play any instrument? Posting trot is kind of like music....think of a four beat score with a quarter note, quarter rest, quarter note, quarter rest, that just repeats like that over and over again. That's posting trot. First note is the rise, then you rest for a split second, then you sit, and remain in the saddle for another split second and repeat, over and over again for as long as you want to post the trot. It's all about finding the horse's rhythm and going with it. Once you get really good at it, you can start to dictate a rhythm to the horse by posting slightly slower or faster than the horse's natural rhythm and they will adjust to you! It's really cool! You are supposed to "rise and fall with the leg on the wall", oh how that phrase haunts me lol My first instructor used to use it all the time...but for whatever reason to this day (after 12 year of riding) I still can't get a hang of that. The general idea is that while the outside front leg (if you're going left its the right and vice versa) is extending forward you should be on your way to the peak of your rise, and as it's coming back underneath the horse you should be going back to the saddle. That's called posting on the diagonal, not to be confused with changing direction on the diagonal lol When trotting a horse's legs move in diagonal pairs (right fore with left hind and left fore with right hind) hence posting on the diagonal.

For jumping: Keep the general leg position with your heels down, but you're going to lean forward when you feel your horse pushing off the ground. Let the horse close the angle of your hip for you, don't anticipate and go into two-point too soon (the leaning forward position), if you do its called jumping ahead and some pretty bad things can happen when you do that. It can cause you to get left behind and hit the horse in the mouth with a tight rein, you might get hit in the butt with the back of the saddle which is going to knock you even more off balance which could make you fall off or both of those may upset your horse and make them throw you off! If there is more than one jump close together and you manage to stay on you will be unprepared for the next jump which may make jumping it dangerous. You also want to give the horse a release with the reins, this is very important! A horse uses it's head and neck a lot for balance when jumping and in order to do that they bring their knees up and drop their head towards their knees. If you keep your hands in the same positions as when you are just walk, trot and cantering the horse won't be able to drop it's head and neck and will even be limited on how much they can bring their knees up. So in order to give the horse the room it needs to jump, but still be in control when you land you give the horse what is called a "release". There's two types: crest release and automatic release. An automatic release is advanced and you will likely not be using it for a while. You'll use the crest release, where when you jump and go into your two-point, you'll also slide your hands about half way up the horse's crest (on both sides of where the mane comes out of the horse's neck). Think of your body like a slinky. When the horse pushes off for a jump, let that push move through your body, push your butt out of the saddle, force your upper body forward which in turn slides your hands up the sides of the crest.

I hope that helps answer some of what you're looking for and maybe even give you more to think about and practice. If I had to say one thing on holding your position though I would say: When you hold yourself like how I say in my first post, if someone was watching you ride from the side, they should be able to draw a line through your ear-shoulder-hip and heel. Always think to yourself, "if the horse magically disappeared from under me...would I land on my feet?" If the answer is yes then your balanced. If not then something needs to change in the way you are positioned because you are not balanced.

And balance is the basis of all riding. If you are not balanced you are going to have a very hard time being effective with your riding.

Alright, I'm going to shut up now! Hope I helped! Have fun riding!!
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    07-09-2013, 12:08 PM
Oh my goodness... how long did it take you to type that! :P That helped my so much you have no idea! Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
    07-09-2013, 12:18 PM
Lol a while, it's fine I don't really have anything going on so I've got the time. I'm glad I could help you, and you don't have to thank me, that's what we're here, for to help each other. But you're welcome!
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    07-09-2013, 12:27 PM
You can read a lot about horses and horseback riding, but you really need to experience it to understand completely. Do you take lessons? You can really learn a lot by taking them. I've been riding for almost 20 years and I just started taking lessons again. I am learning so much, even if we cover something I already know, I feel like I am absorbing more.

If you could provide more information about your background and what you are currently working on with horses, maybe we could give you more helpful advise!
    07-09-2013, 12:51 PM
Well I have taken 2 days worth of lessons (I really want to do actual lessons) and in a few days I am going to meet someone who is the child of someone who works with my dad. I am going to learn more from her. So far I can only walk and do pole work. I tried doing a trot but I went into a gallop. I have not had much experience so I am trying to get knowledge from books and personal knowledge from other people so I can have an idea of what to do and be a better rider. :)
    07-09-2013, 07:08 PM
Nervous or new riders tend to hold onto the horse with their legs. Pressing with your legs = the gas pedal, with most horses. When you went to trot you probably anticipated moving faster and without knowing it and squeezed with your legs out of instinct. So while you thought you were asking for a trot the horse heard (go faster!) so just remember to stay relaxed and let your legs hang instead of hug.
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    07-09-2013, 08:05 PM
Really? Wow... I didn't know horses could feel that. :) Thanks! I will try to NOT push with my legs next time. ;)
    07-10-2013, 01:11 AM
Don't be mistaken, you do need to use your legs when you ride, a lot of cues come from your legs. The only thing is, you need to know how, when, and how much leg pressure to use. Think of it like pressing a gas pedal. If you put a lot of pressure on the pedal, you will take off really fast. If you ease onto the pedal, you will slowly start going faster. It's pretty much the same with horses. If you give them a great big bump with your heel, you will get a big reaction and lots of speed. If you gently squeeze with your calf muscle, the horse will understand that you want a little more forward movement and speed up just a little. You shouldn't have to use your heels at all to cue a horse, just your calves.

Always be calm and relaxed. The more confident you are in the saddle, the better. You need to be the leader and your horse needs to trust you and follow your lead. You can't be a strong leader if you are nervous. Your horse will pick up on your tension and they will either get nervous too, or try to become the leader and start taking over and being naughty.

Also, keep an eye on your posture. Believe it or not, just the way you sit in the saddle can make a difference in the way you ride. If you slouch and flop your arms and legs around, you can lose your balance. Losing your balance is bad for several reasons, but basically, it makes riding a lot harder and your cues less effective. To keep your balance, remember to always sit up straight from the waist up, keep the ball of your foot on the stirrup, and push your heels down. Gently hug your horse with your calves like you are holding a big beach ball with your legs. Don't squeeze unless you want more forward movement (to go faster), and remember, squeeze gently, don't press the pedal to the floor.

I think it would be beneficial for you to take a few more lessons at a walk to get used to leg and seat cues, then move on to the trot. You could learn correct posture, about putting pressure on and taking it away, maybe even the mechanics of how a horse moves and how to move with them. You want to be like dance partners who flow together. You wouldn't start dancing the waltz without learning how to lead or follow your partner.

Good luck! I hope my rambling will help you!

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