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        05-30-2012, 01:46 PM
      #11
    Trained
    After some very bad experiences with doing off site breed leases I will never allow one of my horses to be out of my direct control again. So, I'd do a half lease, he stays at your barn and you get to ride a couple times/week if you want to and you still save money. If you really don't care about moving up levels in dressage then don't offer an option to buy if you don't want to.
         
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        05-30-2012, 01:57 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    The girl has 2 fillys and her bf has a horse so they were going to pasture board all of them together on the other side of town. My stable wouldn't work for her but I am going to talk to the trainer where I am at and tell her that if any of her students EVER wanted to half lease him, to let me know. They could ride in lessons, shows etc and I could still ride too. The added plus is that once she gets to know my horse, she will know which of her other students would also be a fit for him.
         
        05-30-2012, 02:01 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Keep near by you

    I had the same situation you are in. I had two boys that I had to have at a babysitter so I could spend time with my horse. Later on I got an amazing job and basically didnt have time to spend with him as much as I needed too. I felt sad that he wasnt getting ridden, so I set up a lease term with a young girl. She took him to her house for her show horse. I kept calling and checking on him but they werent returning my phone calls. I drove out their to check on him, and it was not a good situation. They werent feeding him properly, and she wasnt riding him either. So I suggest for you to lease him near by and keep the terms yours. If they don't want to follow the terms find another person. It's not worth your stress or the horses. If you feel that you want to keep him, it will all work out. I wouldnt sell him if you like him. You wont get over it. :(
         
        05-30-2012, 02:27 PM
      #14
    Started
    Don't lease him unless it is at your barn on your terms dontmlet him be taken anywhere else, unless you see then barn and the rest of the property he would stay at and approve it.
         
        05-30-2012, 02:45 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    I think carefully concider what you want and what is best for him. If you want to play around with dressage and don't love barrels and poles, and he hates dressage and loves the faster sports, are you doing right by him or your self by not selling?

    I just did this with my mare. She got bored and spooky on trails, I love trails. I spent a year debating before I finally made the decision to sell. Now she gets to do barrels which she enjoys and I have my little arabian, who loves trails as much as I do.

    If you are 100% possitive he is the horse for you, do a half lease. You can save money and still ride.
         
        05-30-2012, 03:05 PM
      #16
    Super Moderator
    I have a different perspective, I think. Not only think about what is best for Cinny, but waht is best for your young family. You have a young daugher, right? Do you have any plans to have another child? Think LONG term. I am so very glad that after a 6 year gap, my husband and I went for another child. I wnted a third, but he did not. But having two children has made a huge difference in our lives as middle ages parents, and the benefit will be even more noticeable as we age. I wish I had three, or four, but that's another story.

    My point being, if keeping Cinny is a financial strain at this point in your life, maybe you should consider letting horse ownership go for a few years. Focus on your family, if you do think another child is in the cards, go for it. Build some financial stability, and heck, start saving for your retirement.
    I know this all sound horribly stodgey and colorless, but you aren't a teen , and when all is said and done, family comes first.

    AND, now for Cinny . . . If the girl is on the up and up , life in a pasture with a few other horses will be absolute heaven for Cinny. And you would have made that possible. Quite the gift of a lifetime.

    IN time you can get another horse. Maybe one that your daughter will share with you?

    So, my advice is to lease Cinny for a trial period to verify that his treatment is good before either long term leasing or selling him. Hold off on horse shopping. Take lessons on a school horse and put the extra time into the family. I know that sounds like a party killer, but them's my thoughts.
         
        05-30-2012, 04:12 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    I have a different perspective, I think. Not only think about what is best for Cinny, but waht is best for your young family. You have a young daugher, right? Do you have any plans to have another child? Think LONG term. I am so very glad that after a 6 year gap, my husband and I went for another child. I wnted a third, but he did not. But having two children has made a huge difference in our lives as middle ages parents, and the benefit will be even more noticeable as we age. I wish I had three, or four, but that's another story.

    My point being, if keeping Cinny is a financial strain at this point in your life, maybe you should consider letting horse ownership go for a few years. Focus on your family, if you do think another child is in the cards, go for it. Build some financial stability, and heck, start saving for your retirement.
    I know this all sound horribly stodgey and colorless, but you aren't a teen , and when all is said and done, family comes first.

    AND, now for Cinny . . . If the girl is on the up and up , life in a pasture with a few other horses will be absolute heaven for Cinny. And you would have made that possible. Quite the gift of a lifetime.

    IN time you can get another horse. Maybe one that your daughter will share with you?

    So, my advice is to lease Cinny for a trial period to verify that his treatment is good before either long term leasing or selling him. Hold off on horse shopping. Take lessons on a school horse and put the extra time into the family. I know that sounds like a party killer, but them's my thoughts.
    I understand what you are saying, and it makes sense. Actually Rob and I are both over 40 and Michael is my second child... he's two. I also have a 13 year old daughter. Both pregnancies were horrible (bed rest with the first one and a lot of PAIN my entire pregnancy with the second) so there are no plans for more babies in the future. We have thought of adoption if we want another and it would be close to Michael's age if we do...whatever that age is at the time.

    Our financial future is doing okay, the railroad has GREAT benefits and Robo has extra $ put in with each paycheck and we have stocks, etc. We are just having an immediate (2-3 months) $ crisis but not one that we can't pull out of in less than a few months with a little buckling down. Heck, if I can stop drinking soda and drink only water I'm sure we would save 500 bucks just in that LOL!!!! But seriously....

    I think Cinny will be happy at the new stable. He will have buddies to be with everyday and free choice food. Mom won't be as "serious" riding him because she can be serious on the lesson horses, etc. I think he will be happy. Besides he LOVES to have an every day spoiling and I'm not sure if he could live without THAT. The peppermints, the 1/2 hour massage and groom sessions before and after his ride. His blankie in the winter that he DEMANDS etc etc. He is quite a Diva for a guy. And yesterday, he also seemed to actually ENJOY doing a couple of exercises ("needlepoint" from 101 dressage exercises is a favorite of his). So maybe if I calm down and stop being so serious and putting the pressure on him all the time, he will be happy. We will see.
         
        05-30-2012, 04:15 PM
      #18
    Super Moderator
    Well, I was thinking you were much younger. Sorry. I am often mixed up.
         
        05-30-2012, 04:20 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    Well, I was thinking you were much younger. Sorry. I am often mixed up.
    That's okay. I often act like an immature spoiled brat so it wouldn't surprise me that people would think I am younger than I am.... It's my own fault really. :) I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being serious by the way... because I know it's true.
         
        05-30-2012, 07:51 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Based on your replies, it sounds like the best answer is to keep him at your barn and allow him to be half-leased by someone there. That way you can keep an eye on him, ride him, etc... while still feeling some financial benefit.

    For what it's worth, I used to half-lease a horse, which basically meant I could ride 3-4 times per week. I paid half of the horse's board. The owner covered all other expenses--vet bills, farrier, etc. It was a great arrangement for all involved, and it was a pretty good experience overall.

    One thing I will suggest though: Whoever leases your horse, please watch him/her ride, and find out exactly what activities your horse will be involved with. Also make sure you approve all tack and equipment that they plan to use. I've seen people do foolish things on leased horses--improper use of draw reins, over jumping, excessive and unnecessary crop/spur use, etc. Hopefully these things would be a non-issue at a barn with good supervision, but I've seen these things happen before. So it's worth considering, and it's why I will never allow someone to lease my horse off-property from where he is boarded.
         

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