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post #21 of 34 Old 12-06-2008, 08:49 AM
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omg AJ that's horrible *hugs*
My dad got me a book on T-Touches. They looked fairly interesting and focused alot on making the horse nice and loose...they recommended doing it before riding and afterwards....they also used it to "fix" colic, and what not (not sure if it would work for that sort of stuff). But they look like something that might help relax the legs and other parts of the body and get them loosened up
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post #22 of 34 Old 12-06-2008, 10:31 AM
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The no grain diet might indeed help. Sometimes tying up is linked with digestive trouble. Go figure. Anyway, when going "grain free" make sure to contact your feed supplier and get a list of ingredients in your feeds. Somethings you think don't have grain, really do. I found that out here.
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post #23 of 34 Old 12-07-2008, 12:14 AM
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I dont have any advice about what you should do. I just wanted to say that im so sorry you are going through this!!!! I, not to long ago, got my first horse...and you really do fall in love with them. I commend you on your efforts to try and help this horse!! A lot of people would just sell them and wash their hands of the deal. I wish you the best of luck!!!!!!
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post #24 of 34 Old 12-07-2008, 09:20 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks so much everyone...

M2G - I seriously doubted her "buy back" offer, if I ever can't keep him anymore, she'll take him back, she has a huge property with a bunch of horses - no money exchange, but at least I know that his owner will be aware of his condition and he wouldn't end up in a slaughter house.

I'm going to talk to my vet again tomorrow about planning a new diet and probably getting him tested for HYPP. And my grandma always gives me a gift certificate for the local tack shop so I'll be going shopping for horse massage books after x-mas.

Thanks again everyone, this forum is so supportive!

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post #25 of 34 Old 12-07-2008, 10:28 AM
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I, too, can't give any advice, but wanted to say I'm sorry and hope things are advancing towards a positive solution. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Flynn. You're an honorable "mom".
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post #26 of 34 Old 12-08-2008, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks so much ManeEvent, that's nice to hear.
I suggested PSSM to my vet and he said he was just thinking the same thing, he's been looking further into it for me so hopefully I will hear back from him soon.

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post #27 of 34 Old 12-08-2008, 06:31 PM
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they can test for it

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #28 of 34 Old 12-10-2008, 12:34 AM
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Just a thought, did he have these problems with his previous owners? You may have mentioned it and I just missed it. However, if he did not have this issue before, it may be a result in a change of diet on your part. I agree with others on here that no grain is a total must. Also, if he is being fed any alfalfa, it would be a wise choice on your part to get him off that as well. Just some thoughts, good luck to you and your horse.
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post #29 of 34 Old 12-10-2008, 12:35 AM
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First a few tips. I haven't seen any mention here concerning the feeding of alfalfa hay. A horse that ties up should be a on a stictly grass hay diet, absolutely no alfalfa- not even in a mix. I second the people recommending taking him off grain. If he didn't tie up with his old owner, however, then you must have changed something since you acquired him and maybe you could pinpoint the problem if you found what changed from his former owner, unless of course the former owner was lying about the horse never tying up. Also a long warm-up session before doing any strenuous work is something very important with a hores that ties-up.

Secondly, if the tying-up episodes are as bad and as frequent as you are saying the best thing for the horse might be putting it down, not selling him to another owner who will probably sell him once they can't correct the issue. This hand-off selling will probably continue all the way down to the auction yard. Also, if the tying-up is so bad, wouldn't be kinder for your horse to put him down instead of subjecting him to pain? I would not be able to sell a horse to a person knowing the horse had a serious issue- even if the buyer was in full disclosure. Especially a horse I loved, I would rather put the poor thing down than subject it to years of pain and changing owners.
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post #30 of 34 Old 12-10-2008, 11:41 AM Thread Starter
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He never had an episode with his former owner, but she rode him at a walk, maybe trot for trail rides about twice a year.
We did get it out of her that when he was sent for training as a 3 yr old he was sent back home because he got sick???? We've tried unsuccessfully to contact the trainer since the owner says she didn't know what he was sick with but my coach and I have our suspicions.
When I first got him we eased him on to a very small amount of fat and fibre pellets and a trace mineral. He was fine with heavy riding for about 3 months.
Since July he has not had an ounce of grain and is only on pasture and hay (not containing alfalfa), and has tied up 3 or 4 times (mildly, but he was worked a lot less).

He will never be sold. If I ever can't keep him anymore,which I doubt, although he is only six, I would consider euthanasia.

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