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    01-17-2012, 10:51 AM
  #1
Weanling
I don't think my mare likes her western saddle?

I haven't ridden my mare for a few weeks but this usually makes no difference to how she rides. I tacked her up this morning walked her round a little as she tends to blow up and then tightened her cinch some more. When I went to get on she just would not stand still at all I think it took me around a good 10-15 minutes of her moving forward and me moving her back before she stood long enough for me to get on. When on my saddle was slipping quite alot and I felt very unsafe. I can't tighten it any more it's as tight as I can cinch it up around her barrel. I have noticed the last few times I have gone to ride her that she is getting more and more fidgety while I get on. She has slimmed down slightly through the winter and i'm wondering whether this has altered the fit of her saddle but then again I have only ridden her a handful of times in my western saddle and now looking back on it I think she has always fidgeted while i've got on with this saddle. So just to fill you in. Last summer I rode her in an english saddle but I love western so wanted to ride her in a western saddle. I now recall she always stood still when I went to get on in the english saddle. I actually took her western saddle off today right after getting off and started doing some work at the mounting block with her standing still..... she immediately stood still for me to get on bareback never even moved a foot which is how she was last summer with the english saddle even after she hadn't been rode through her whole pregnancy that first ride she stood stock still while I mounted. A friend said to me today that maybe with her loosing some weight and the saddle slipping she could be uncomfortable. I'm thinking of trying her in the english again on Thursday to see what she is like as this could be a strong possibility what do you guys think?
     
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    01-17-2012, 12:18 PM
  #2
Trained
Maybe the english saddle fits your mare better
You could check the fit of your western saddle and her losing some weight could be the answer
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    01-17-2012, 09:10 PM
  #3
Yearling
The new change in saddle could be alien to her. I remember my aunt and I tried my saddle on her mare, who rides english all the time and has never had a western saddle on her in her life, and she flipped all kinds of stuff. You mentioned she has slimmed down and your saddle slips, the slipping could be irritating her. I know it made my horse so mad he would rear to to make it stop. It might help to size down her cinch a couple inches. But that's just a suggestion.
     
    01-18-2012, 04:41 AM
  #4
Weanling
Thanks guys. I have tried a smaller size cinch on her and it still does it but I think you're right the fact that she has slimmed down and the saddle is slipping it could be irritating her or pinching her somewhere. I have rode in my trainers saddle on a few occassions with her and that never slipped could it be the type of tree of the saddle as she is mutton whithered? I cleaned and conditioned my english saddle last night ready for tomorrow as i'm working today so just about manage a quick skip out and feeding today, so i'm anxious to see how she stands for that. Hopefully she will be fine.
     
    01-18-2012, 09:48 AM
  #5
Yearling
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Originally Posted by netty83    
Thanks guys. I have tried a smaller size cinch on her and it still does it but I think you're right the fact that she has slimmed down and the saddle is slipping it could be irritating her or pinching her somewhere. I have rode in my trainers saddle on a few occassions with her and that never slipped could it be the type of tree of the saddle as she is mutton whithered? I cleaned and conditioned my english saddle last night ready for tomorrow as i'm working today so just about manage a quick skip out and feeding today, so i'm anxious to see how she stands for that. Hopefully she will be fine.
That could be. Do you think you could post some pictures?
     
    01-18-2012, 09:54 AM
  #6
Started
My guess is that the western saddle does not fit your mare. The slipping, even when cinched very tight, is a big indicator that the fit is not right. It could be the tree size or shape, it could be the rigging position, etc.

Pics of your mare wearing her saddle would help us to see (as much as is possible in a photo over the internet ) more definitively and specifically what the fit issue is. Pics should be of your mare standing square, straight on from each side, from front to back (showing the shoulders and gullet) and from back to front. For the pics, the saddle should just be setting on her back, no pad and no cinch. Also, a look at the underside of her western saddle pad after a ride can tell an interesting story about her experience in terms of sweat marks and wear patterns.

The only fix is really to find a different saddle that fits her better. If your trainer's saddle does better, try taking some photos to compare it to your saddle and see what the specific differences are between the two. If you can find out the dimensions and specs on the trainer's saddle, that can be a great starting point in finding a better fit for her at home.

Good luck!
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    01-18-2012, 10:05 AM
  #7
Weanling
I'll take pics in the morning both with her western and english saddle on and let you guys have a look. I'm no expert with saddles in fact far from it as a kid I was thrown on bareback and as a returning adult I prefer a saddle but have very limited knowledge. Coincidentally when I got on her bareback yesterday I was all over the place my balance is definitely lacking from what it was years ago! So i've today invested in a gym ball and i'm going to work on my core muscles
     
    01-18-2012, 04:27 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Is she hard to fit with saddles?

I have had many,many issues fitting saddles with Gidget. Mostly western saddles! English saddles I have tried seemed to fit her better and she seemed more comfortable. I could have lucked out and picked the right saddle out though. If she is hard to fit you could try a western treeless saddle. They are becoming quite popular and really work for those hard to fit horses BUT I recommend doing lots of research on them. You have to pay attention to how much you weigh so you can determine how thick the shims need to be for the pads. If you interested I can help you with links and such.
     
    01-18-2012, 04:57 PM
  #9
Foal
Mutton withered horses are pretty tricky to fit with a western as most of the trees are designed with normal withers in mind, creating a ridge which keeps the saddle in place. However I have been able to fit my westerns on clients horses who have a gradual slope towards their rear with little shoulder definition by using the correct saddle pad. Are you using a straight back pad on her? And how thick is it? You say she's slimmed down a little and this is fine a horse's conformation changes throughout their life and even throughout the year due to exercise level, nutrition, the season etc so don't panick about trying to find the perfectly fitting saddle if you've got a quality saddle and a variety of saddle pads you'll be set for any changes throughout the year but the saddle you've got for her may be just too far from what her shape requires,hard to say without being there :)
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    01-18-2012, 04:59 PM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Gidget    
is she hard to fit with saddles?

I have had many,many issues fitting saddles with Gidget. Mostly western saddles! English saddles I have tried seemed to fit her better and she seemed more comfortable. I could have lucked out and picked the right saddle out though. If she is hard to fit you could try a western treeless saddle. They are becoming quite popular and really work for those hard to fit horses BUT I recommend doing lots of research on them. You have to pay attention to how much you weigh so you can determine how thick the shims need to be for the pads. If you interested I can help you with links and such.
Would love to have a look at links, I'm in the UK! Just thought i'd mention . I did some research a while back on treeless saddles as she is hard to fit with her being a uk native breed she is flat withered. I didn't get as far as looking at them with a view to buy as I kept getting so much confusing opinions that it just got too stressful - told that they are bad for a horses back then also the best saddle ever. I am a heavier rider 12 1/2 stone and was also told that wouldn't be ideal. I recently tried an english treeless saddle i'm not sure the make or quality it was lovely and comfy but felt like I was just sat on top of it rather than sat into the saddle. I wasn't keen. Maybe it was the wrong type for me.
     

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