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        10-06-2009, 09:41 AM
      #11
    Foal
    Ok im off to bed. Wish me luck for tomorrow in telling my instructor of all this.
         
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        10-06-2009, 10:08 AM
      #12
    Foal
    My horses put their ears back all the time...most of the time its showing submission to my herd lead or my bossy mare. My walker puts them back when Im messing with him too, but he's a big baby, I don't think there is anyone or anything he gets aggressive about...sometimes when they going to check something new out they put their ears back to..I would say the body language would have to match pinned ears to make it be aggressive behaviour.
         
        10-06-2009, 10:50 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    His ears aren't back in that picture, they're in a neutral, relaxed position. That is a good place for his ears to be as it neither shows fear/anger or alertness/flight readyness. If you look at a horse that is working nicely on the bit, a lot of times they carry their ears like that, kinda flicking them around a little bit as you talk to them/give them signals.

    Here's an article that explains ear language. Page 3 has the ear stuff.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...bqtqUKT8TWcGAA
         
        10-06-2009, 02:43 PM
      #14
    Started
    When a horse is angry, his ears will be pinned flat against his neck. In the picture, he doesn't look upset at all. When horse's ears look like that, they're usually bored, tired, or grumpy. The lunging thing is more of an issue, and that's a lack of respect. That should be dealt with by a trainer because a horse with no respect is dangerous.

    I think part of his attitude problem is the fact that people pick on him all the time. That general vibe probably makes him more prone to misbehave and be in a crabby mood. And if people spook him on purpose and stuff like that, I would be grouchy, too. No wonder he's not nice.
         
        10-07-2009, 07:40 AM
      #15
    Foal
    Thankyou everyone for giving me this new info.

    I had a talk to my instructor today about the girl and what she does.

    All the said was mm. Yeah well. Yes well ins not really fair on people who want to say hello to him. Mm its not far on me or the horse when I go to say hello to him in the stall and he is cowering in the corner.

    So, yeah I told her, but it really wasnt the answer I thought I would get.
    I thought she would go up to the girl and tell he to stop, but I didnt see her go over to her. And I didnt see the girl unhappy about it, so I don't know if she has told her or not.
    This insnt fair on him. I believe that if people would stop hitting him or spooking him on perpose that he would be much more behaved.
    Like today. It was horse games day and I got there at 8 and went and said hello and he was fine. He even walked over to me to say hey and stood next to me. He was a little iffy about the boy who says hello too, but he got over it.
    Then he saw the girl come. He instantly changed. If anyone had food, he would be happy, even from the girl. But if they didnt have food he would ignore them.
    At one stage in the moring I was sitting on the railing in his yard and he didnt mind, but the girl was near by too. The horse who was in the yard next door to him came over and they said hello and he was resting his ears the same way, and if the wernt the were pricked foward. The girl came over to him on the other side of the yard and he put his ears a little ferther down and she yells 'aye put them foward' and like 3 minutes after he had put them back she hits him on the nose and goes be good. Then the horse came back and he fliped. He charged at the rail, braking it right off. Everyoone yelled at him, which I can see why, but I just said whoooooa or how ever you spell it and he stoped and calmed down.
    So yeah, something has to be done.
    Oh, and he acadently bite her couse she was giving him food, so she goes over to another horse, then she comes back and hits him on the nose. I got to put the holter on and he dosnt want it to be near his nose. I got it on in the end.
    The girl didnt go near him for the rest of the day and he was fine. No lunges or anything.

    So, I don't know if she is going to do something or not. She didnt thank me for telling her or anything, and she wasnt shocked. What should I do?
         
        10-07-2009, 01:28 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    It really sounds like the horse is afraid of this girl, and if what you relate is true, it is easy to see why. Maybe you could try saying something to her in a nice way. Tell her that, based on his body language, you think the horse is afraid of her and that's why he is having problems with her, and suggest alternative approaches. Or, maybe find a good book for her on horse body language and say you think she'd really enjoy it - possibly once she is better educated, she will act better toward the horse.
         
        10-07-2009, 09:40 PM
      #17
    Foal
    I hope so. She's even ment to be geting a horse of her own, and I don't want her horse to have to be confused by her.
         

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