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        08-26-2010, 10:33 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Exclamation I need some help.

    So basically... I'm trying to find my horse. His name is Simply Red, and he showed in the Rolex Three Day Event under Phillip Dutton.

    I owned him for two years and showed him 3rd Level Dressage under Stephanie Pair.

    He wasn't stolen, technically, but my mom gave him back to the woman we bought him from for retirement purposes. However, she gave him back to the Boukarts (I know I spelled that wrong) as a debt and resold him without telling us. I found out midway through my first year of college that she did this and I've hit nothing but dead ends in trying to locate him.

    So now... I'm more actively trying to find out where he is, since someone else owns him, but I still have the rights to him. I have his passport and other documentation proving my ownership.

    I found someone on the forums that saw him within the last two years: Orangetictac. If you could get in contact with me, that would be phenomenal. If anyone else knows, I would really love it if I could somehow get into contact with you.
         
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        08-26-2010, 10:36 PM
      #2
    Foal
    I have pictures if that would help... =/
         
        08-26-2010, 10:58 PM
      #3
    Foal
    Anyone?
         
        08-26-2010, 11:00 PM
      #4
    Foal

         
        08-26-2010, 11:00 PM
      #5
    Foal
    I have to go, but if anyone has any information, please post... I'll be checking back frequently.
         
        08-26-2010, 11:46 PM
      #6
    Showing
    I wish I could help you out. I hope you find him.
         
        08-27-2010, 07:07 AM
      #7
    Banned
    Just a tid bit so you do not work yourself into a tizzy next time you post. Do not expect a whole bunches of replies to a specialized thread that is posted later in the day. No one is ignoring you. They are just not on line or do not have an answer for you.


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    He wasn't stolen, technically, but my mom gave him back to the woman we bought him from for retirement purposes. However, she gave him back to the Boukarts (I know I spelled that wrong) as a debt and resold him without telling us. I found out midway through my first year of college that she did this and I've hit nothing but dead ends in trying to locate him.


    I will start with, you might have better luck finding this horse if you do not imply people did something wrong.

    It sounds like you (your mother) gave ownership of the horse back to the person you bought him from. She has every right to then sell him or do whatever she wants to with him.

    I do wish you much luck finding your boy.
         
        08-27-2010, 07:38 AM
      #8
    Yearling
    If he was ridden Phillip Dutton id start with locating his yard and going from there
         
        08-27-2010, 09:22 AM
      #9
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xkaibob    
    He wasn't stolen, technically, but my mom gave him back to the woman we bought him from for retirement purposes. However, she gave him back to the Boukarts (I know I spelled that wrong) as a debt and resold him without telling us. I found out midway through my first year of college that she did this and I've hit nothing but dead ends in trying to locate him.

    So now... I'm more actively trying to find out where he is, since someone else owns him, but I still have the rights to him. I have his passport and other documentation proving my ownership.
    On the first quote that I've bolded:

    He wasn't stolen at all, technically or otherwise. Your mother, who was your legal guardian and actual owner of the horse since I'm assuming you were a minor at the time, gave him away.

    What that person did afterward with him was perfectly legal, as was whatever the next set of owners did.

    On the second quote I've bolded:

    You have no rights to this horse, regardless of the fact that you're holding his papers. Papers do not denote ownership, except perhaps to the breed registry. If that were the case, many horses wouldn't belong to their current owners since their papers never followed them, or were lost somewhere along the way.

    The only person you should be angry with is your mother, not the people who were given or sold the horse. They did nothing wrong, and you have no legal recourse concerning this animal unless you want to sue your own mother for financial compensation.

    What do you expect if do you find him? That whoever owns him is just going to hand him over to you? Yeah, not thinking that's going to happen.

    If you want to find out if he's well cared for, that's fine. However, if you think you're going to waltz in and get the horse back, you're living in fantasy land.

    You can offer to buy him from whoever owns him now, but there's nothing you can do if they say no.
         
        08-27-2010, 09:26 AM
      #10
    Banned
    Just wondering, what was wrong with him that your mother wanted him to be retired in the first place?
         

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