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        10-28-2012, 01:21 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Oxer, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. For some people a horse is a "teammate" or "partner". For others a horse is just a "tool". If it works you use it until it breaks. If it doesn't work then you set it aside and use something else. It's sad to treat a living creature that way. Especially when most horses (at least mares) in the wild would be in the same herd their whole life.
         
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        10-28-2012, 02:03 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    People keep telling me to get rid of my horse and not waste my time and money on him because he has mental issues. I don't think he's broken. I think he wasn't properly taken care of in the first place. He's a lovely horse when you actually listen to what he's telling you. He seems to be sound on the lunge but lame undersaddle atm. I've just started rehabbing him and the progress is starting to show. Replacing him isn't even a viable option in my books because you don't replace your loved ones.

    A couple of people at my barn are undergoing lameness issues with their horses requiring long term periods of rest. None of them would consider replacing their horses because of it since everyone is attached to their horses like a pet/loved one and not a vehicle.

    In my mother's homeland they hardly ever replace things that are broken. They just keep repairing them. Most of the cars there are like 40-50 years old because they just keep fixing them when they break down instead of buying new ones. When my half chap tore I wanted to go buy a new pair and my relatives got offended like I had just said something blasphemous. They fixed it within an hour and it lasted me 7 more years.
         
        10-28-2012, 02:25 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    MyBoyPuck, do you know if it's more common to see a high strain, or a low strain with this type of hoof issue?
    To tell you the truth, my personal thought on the whole thing was people over working horses that weren't fit enough for the work they were suddenly being asked to perform. You cannot expect a 6 year old child to properly school a pony, to get the pony fit and exercise it appropriately. So when this pony was asked to show, and was entered in 5 or 6 over fences classes, I believe that was when the suspensory issue occurred. Although I could be completely wrong.
    Does a horses fitness directly effect it's tendons, ligaments, and such?
         
        10-28-2012, 02:34 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    I wouldn't get rid of a lame horse. But since we need "x" number to get our work done, I might pick another one up.

    I have the luxury of being able to turn out a horse that simply needs lay up for, I don't know, as long as I've ever needed to. But, not everyone can do that.

    My big concern with your situation is what is causing multiple and similar lamenesses in many horses. I have a feeling Miss Puck is on to something.
         
        10-28-2012, 02:51 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    I agree that it is sad to just give up on a horse when they become injured. My 15 yr old TB was injured 6 yrs ago and took 6 months to heal. He's always had slight issues with swelling and lameness (from time to time) in various legs that had to be dealt with accordingly, and his hocks were starting to show signs of needing extra care too. More recently, he tore a ligament that didn't heal in the time the vet estimated it would take, nor did it heal in double the time the vet thought it would. Due to this injury, his past injury history/hock issues, and the fact I knew he couldn't take me further in my riding, I retired him to pasture with his buddy. I would never get rid of him because of his injury, even if it never heals. If it DOES heal, I still have the option of just leaving him be in pasture or putting him into a very light workload.

    I did buy another horse, but only because I was able to find a good solution for my TB first.

    I would agree that insufficient fitness and being over worked/jumped is correlated with leg injuries. It's just like human athletes.
         
        10-28-2012, 03:13 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    While I don't like the thought of our horses being "disposable" and certainly don't follow that line of thought, my previous horse DID have chronic lameness issues and I ended up making the decision to donate him to a therapeutic riding center.

    After he tore two massive holes into his RH suspensory (two different branches of it) he was never the same. He had 1.5 years off, with 6 months stall rest and 1 year turnout. We slowly brought him back into work and he seemed to be going pretty well, minus some stiffness that a joint supplement took care of. Before I put him up for sale as a beginner horse I had a pre-sale vet exam done, and he flexed 4/5 on that same RH. There was no point in doing ultrasounds at that point. For whatever reason, all the shockwave, stall rest, cold hosing, etc. in the world hasn't helped. He was a lesson horse for about 8 months, doing mostly W/T for beginners, and after 3 months off for the winter while the owner went to South Carolina, he was almost dead lame at the canter, definitely off at the trot, and just short behind in the walk, even out in the field.

    If I have a horse with chronic issues, I have no problem finding it a better place and buying a new horse. End of story. I can't shovel money into a horse, no matter how much I love it, for continuous, serious lameness issues. I can't. It's not feasible. I'd rather get them healed up as much as possible and let them go on to something that won't tax them anymore than they can handle and then put money towards a horse that I can more reliably count on to be sound.

    If I had the money to buy a horse after mine went lame, I probably would. I'm not ashamed to admit that in the slightest.
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        10-28-2012, 10:11 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    My boy has had lameness issues off and on since I have had him ( and long before but I have no vet records) I certainly would not get rid of him. Have a friend who bought a horse with ringbone. ( was buted up when they looked at her, so no idea till they got her home ) they continue to pay to board her and she has a great quality of life. But our horses are pleasure horses. We have all the time in the world to just love on them, ride em lightly when they feel good. Not sure if my goal was to compete on the national or international level if I would feel the same.
    But I guess my question is... who is buying these lame horses???
         
        10-28-2012, 12:12 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    I was asking myself the same question. While there is no way I would sell or give away my horse because of an injury, I most certainly would not buy one with a known injury either.
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        10-28-2012, 12:22 PM
      #19
    Started
    I'm with Strange.

    Sometimes no matter how much you try the horse just isn't going to hold up to the type of work you are doing. My colt fractured his ankle and tore his suspencery by gooding off in the field as a yearling. We did what we could for him, this included the 4-6 months of stall rest. Despite what we did do and keep doing for him he is never going to be competition sound. He slips in the pasture and requires 6 weeks of stall rest a few times a year.

    He is seven years old now and I can ride him for a collective six months of a year. Half of that riding time is spent re-building his leg, it seems that by the time we are up to a canter its like clock work that he'll injure himself and back to time off we go.

    IF I did not have the luxury of owning ten other horses. IF I did not have the ability to afford him, he would have to go. He eats like a horse and if he were my only horse he would be useless. He doesn't have the option of being a therapeutic riding horse or even a nice pasture pet. He is an @ss to deal with and requires an experienced hand. (Part of that lovely temperament is WHY he always re-injures himself).

    I choose to keep him, because I can, but I would not judge if someone in similar shoes did not choose to do the same.
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        10-28-2012, 12:24 PM
      #20
    Trained
    I have a filly with a lameness which may or may not resolve. At the moment all I want is for her to be sound enough to breed from... forget actually RIDING... because if I can breed from her then I don't have to go buy a riding horse when my gelding eventually retires.

    But the question of what to do with her once I get that foal is definitely heavy in my mind, I have no purpose for a broodmare beyond the one foal and though she is nice enough to breed from, and quite well-bred, the market for broodies is pretty much nil. I probably would sell her.

    I can't afford to have too many horses that I can't ride. I had one put down because I couldn't, at the time, afford to have two horses full stop, and the one that was put down was "broken" so nobody wanted him. Two horses is my financial limit, Monty is going nowhere until the day he dies [and he's 17 so retirement, from competition at least, is likely only a few years away], so my second horse HAS to be sound.

    I am currently in the dilemma at the moment of what to do with the unsound one... if I can't get her pasture sound the answer is obvious, but if this issue is what my vet thinks it is I don't have much hope of getting her riding sound. Pasture sound shouldn't be too much of an issue but might require expensive maintenance in the form of regular joint injections, depending on her.
         

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