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    09-07-2012, 09:41 PM
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Foal
I'll Probably Have to Sell My Horse :(

I'm so frustrated. He's been in training for over a month now and showing hardly any signs of improvement when being ridden. Our trainer says he bucks and rears and goes nuts when a mare is in heat. Come to find out, he wasn't properly gelded. WHAT???? He is definitely not going to be the right horse for me considering I'm still somewhat of a beginner. I just hate being in this kind of situation. He was sort of a surprise for me but if I would have had a choice, he would not have been the horse I picked for myself (I was 13 and he was 3 when I first got him 5 years ago). I knew that young kids and young horses don't usually go well together.

I really don't know what to do now. So what do you do with a horse that isn't gelded properly? Do you get it...ummm...."redone"?

We'll probably sell him, but we just spent $600 on his training and we have to pay $300 again next week. Our trainer says he doesn't like to give up on horses and wants to give him another week. I don't want to be in the hole after this. I would like to be able to get another horse that is better for me. How much do you think I could sell him for? He is a gorgeous 8 year old purebred TWH. He just has the problems mentioned above. We already had one man bragging about his gorgeous gait who offered to buy him, but that was a few years ago before all this.

Thanks for reading. I would be so grateful for any advice.
     
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    09-07-2012, 09:48 PM
  #2
Weanling
Really don't have answers for you but I am confused. You have had him for 5 years and he just started acting this way or is this an 8 y/o untrained horse that now you are trying to have trained? When was he gelded? Was he gelded by a vet or an individual not trained?
     
    09-07-2012, 10:22 PM
  #3
Yearling
If he was proud cut and will have these problems with mares, its best to sell him to an experienced rider who can handle him. No training in the world will change a personality.

You have to settle with the idea that you may not get your money back from this guy when you sell him. He has issues with bucking and rearing and is proud cut (or might be). A week more of training won't fix what your trainer is saying is happening. She either is incapable of retraining him, or there are issues with him being a beginner's horse.

If we saw some pictures and knew a bit more about his background, we might be able to quote you a price.
     
    09-07-2012, 10:35 PM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by eclipseranch    
really don't have answers for you but I am confused. You have had him for 5 years and he just started acting this way or is this an 8 y/o untrained horse that now you are trying to have trained? When was he gelded? Was he gelded by a vet or an individual not trained?
Ok, sorry. A friend of my dad's bought him from a guy that bred, trained, and most likely gelded him himself. I found out later that this guy didn't take very good care of his horses. So yeah, I'm pretty sure this guy gelded him and not a vet.

He has been just kind of sitting out in the pasture doing nothing for 5 years because we didn't find a trainer until recently. He was supposed to have been trained when we got him, which he was, somewhat. He just had some behavior issues that needed to be fixed. Now we know why that is.
     
    09-07-2012, 10:46 PM
  #5
Weanling
In that case, I agree with copperhead..prob good idea to find a horse better suited for you...I would hate for you to get hurt and 1 week of training..probably a waste of your money under the circumstances.
     
    09-08-2012, 12:50 AM
  #6
Foal
This is him and there are some more pictures in my barn.


Oh, and the "one more week" of training was not to finish training, but to see if he improved enough in that week to keep going with it.
     
    09-08-2012, 12:59 AM
  #7
Weanling
Perhaps you can talk to a vet to see if there are any sort of procedures that can be done to reduce/eradicate his behavior around mares. The equine medical field has come strides in utilizing new technologies and innovations every day. I hope their is that option and it is within your financial means.
     
    09-08-2012, 01:15 AM
  #8
Foal
Thanks, I'd probably be up for anything that doesn't end in wasting the $900 on training. I am a little confused about this though, does this mean that, technically, he'll never be an actual gelding??? And could he still reproduce???
     
    09-08-2012, 01:23 AM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Cheydako    
Thanks, I'd probably be up for anything that doesn't end in wasting the $900 on training. I am a little confused about this though, does this mean that, technically, he'll never be an actual gelding??? And could he still reproduce???
Well, the info I looked up has me up in the air as far as what a Proud Cut truly is...some suggest it is something similar to a rubber band around the testicles, at any rate crude homemade castrating makes me shudder! Yet there's the crowd that says he simply had one un descended testicle and due to this there is a good chance he will act studdy around mares but there aren't any live sperm to impregnate a mare. This is known as a crypto stallion, which can be corrected surgically. If it were me, I would have the vet take a look to see if they can rectify the situation either way. Good luck, and yes I can see why you spent all this money on him. He's a beauty!
     
    09-08-2012, 01:25 AM
  #10
Green Broke
I doubt he could still reproduce, you probably would have already found out by now if he could.

There are many "rigs" or horses proud cut around, some are manageable, some less so.

I don't know how you're going to get around not wasting the $900 for training. You very rarely make back any of the money you spend on a horse. You've either got to decide to continue with his training, which I wouldn't recommend, or sell him now for probably not much at all.

Even though he looks nice enough, if he's difficult to handle, and you're going to be honest about the situation, people aren't going to spend much money on him if he requires that much work. It'll be a risk for them. If your trainer is hopeful maybe they want to buy him? Perhaps you could work out a way to settle the rest of the training fee?

I don't know though, horses go for different prices in different places.
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