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post #21 of 34 Old 09-08-2012, 08:52 PM
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My2Geldings - often fixing a rig/crypt involves general anesthesia and serious surgery, not just a matter of calling the vet out and getting a bit extra chopped off. There's a chance he's not a rig at all but possibly late cut, just plain into mares despite not having the required anatomy, or not actually reacting to the mares at all but something completely different (like a different environment to what he's used to, different handling or something else). We've only got the trainer's word for this studly behaviour, I'd get a test done before making any drastic decisions.
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post #22 of 34 Old 09-08-2012, 08:55 PM
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Btw - OP, what were the initial behavioural issues that had you take him to the trainer in the first place? Keen to know!
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post #23 of 34 Old 09-08-2012, 09:10 PM
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I'd get a vet to come out and draw blood, they can tet how much hormones he has runnign around and give you a better idea what's what rather than speculating 'is he or isn't he?'

Then get the Vet to give you some suggestions and options.

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post #24 of 34 Old 09-08-2012, 09:45 PM
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OP you stated the following:

"....He's been in training for over a month now...." and ".....but we just spent $600 on his training and we have to pay $300 again next week."

Here's where the math doesn't add up, $600 for a month of training (4 weeks) and another $300 for an extra week? Um....ok.

AlexS, I think you hit a nerve on me and I believe you're right about the trainer just wanting to suck as much money as she possibly can out of this girl. In fact if financially possible, get a different trainer's opinion.
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I scanned quickly so I might have missed it, but in what way was he gelded improperly? According to my Equine Reproduction professor, who is one of the most recognized and respected in the country, if the testis and epididymis have been removed there is nothing left that would cause a horse to continue to act "studdy" as far as hormones go. If the horse continues to, it is simply a learned behavior that he learned before being gelded.

In other words, he'd need some behavior training, but it's known to be a bit difficult to work out.
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Btw - OP, what were the initial behavioural issues that had you take him to the trainer in the first place? Keen to know!
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The original plan was to sort of "refresh his memory" with training then our trainer would give me lessons on how to handle him since I'm not as aggressive with him as I should be, but the plan changed after he started acting this way.
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OP you stated the following:

"....He's been in training for over a month now...." and ".....but we just spent $600 on his training and we have to pay $300 again next week."

Here's where the math doesn't add up, $600 for a month of training (4 weeks) and another $300 for an extra week? Um....ok.

AlexS, I think you hit a nerve on me and I believe you're right about the trainer just wanting to suck as much money as she possibly can out of this girl. In fact if financially possible, get a different trainer's opinion.
LOL. It has been a month plus 2 weeks. He charges $600 per month or $150 a week. I know he isn't trying to "suck money" out of me because he only trains 8 horses a day and has people waiting in line for openings. He is an excellent trainer and simply wants to see if my horse can improve in another week or so and so all of this wouldn't be just a waste. We know it's a gamble.
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Laugh at my advice that I gave with what little info you provided, I'm unsubbing and will say no more. It doesn't make any diff to me: sell your horse for what you can or keep it. I was just trying to help YOU out....which is the whole point of this forum.
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post #29 of 34 Old 09-09-2012, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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Laugh at my advice that I gave with what little info you provided, I'm unsubbing and will say no more. It doesn't make any diff to me: sell your horse for what you can or keep it. I was just trying to help YOU out....which is the whole point of this forum.
I put LOL because what I wrote did make it sound like I said it was $300 for an extra week (I was honestly laughing at myself). I didn't mean to offend you. And I am very grateful for EVERYONE'S help.:)
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I scanned quickly so I might have missed it, but in what way was he gelded improperly? According to my Equine Reproduction professor, who is one of the most recognized and respected in the country, if the testis and epididymis have been removed there is nothing left that would cause a horse to continue to act "studdy" as far as hormones go. If the horse continues to, it is simply a learned behavior that he learned before being gelded.

In other words, he'd need some behavior training, but it's known to be a bit difficult to work out.
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I really don't know. I have never even heard of this before now. The trainer says he checked somehow and that was how he knew for sure, but what made him speculate was when Dakota tried to mount a mare through the fence. I just know that it was most likely not a vet who did the procedure.
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