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post #31 of 34 Old 09-10-2012, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheydako View Post
I really don't know. I have never even heard of this before now. The trainer says he checked somehow and that was how he knew for sure, but what made him speculate was when Dakota tried to mount a mare through the fence. I just know that it was most likely not a vet who did the procedure.
Doubt the trainer could know this for sure - unless he has one or more undescended testicles that very luckily have remained where they were (rather than moving up into the abdomen as he's grown, like many do), in which case removal would be relatively inexpensive. There are plenty of "randy" geldings out there who've had the necessary bits removed but will attempt to mount a mare - cutting off their testicles doesn't always remove their sex drive, particularly if it happened when they were already sexually mature (late cut).

I'm just getting bad vibes about this trainer, I feel he's using the horse's supposed behaviour to excuse why he hasn't made the expected progress with him. Get a vet to run a test (they'll probably have to send the sample away), observe his behaviour at home and if you know any experienced horse people, get them to give you a second opinion on his overall behaviour and if possible have them expose him (safely!!) to a mare in heat to see his reaction.

And, my boy is a studly fellow but so long as you have his respect he'll refrain from getting excited around the mares while being worked with, and will walk past other males that are challenging him without so much as a glance - your horse doesn't sound crazy or unruly within your experience, so if the trainer is having trouble your horse may not think much of him.

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post #32 of 34 Old 09-10-2012, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilHorseOfDoom View Post
...I'm just getting bad vibes about this trainer, I feel he's using the horse's supposed behaviour to excuse why he hasn't made the expected progress with him.
I would hope that's not the case but there is an easy way to find out. OP, have you seen the horse act up as the trainer describes?

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post #33 of 34 Old 09-10-2012, 07:06 AM
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The best would be to sell him, BUT the question is I'm not sure who would buy him since he dosen't have the best conditions.
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post #34 of 34 Old 09-10-2012, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mudpie View Post
I highly suspect that Mudpie is proud cut. He will drop and harden for mares in heat, but isn't "official" about anything. He's not less of a horse for it, and doesn't behave too terribly differently around mares in heat.

Snickers is proud cut, as well, but he actually gets in. He cannot get mares pregnant, however. He's also not less of a horse for it, and is just fine.

It's not the end of the world, and you don't need to sell your horse.
Dropping and becoming erect, or even actually penetrating a mare are NOT sure signs that a horse is "proud cut". I have a gelding who is without a doubt gelded properly and I have seen him mount a mare on more than one occasion (including over a fence, thank you for THAT heart attack Rex!). Boys will be boys.

OP, if mounting mares is the only reason your trainer suspects he is "proud cut" I'd be getting a vet's opinion. Actually, I would be getting a vet's opinion anyway.

HOWEVER! If the behavioural problems he was presenting before he was sent away to training are still there and you are not willing to sink further money in to a different trainer then it is definitely time to move him on. Do not expect to recoup your expenses though.

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