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post #1 of 9 Old 10-17-2012, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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India cries out for Aja...the moment they are separated?!?!

Finally I was able to pin my two mares next to each other. At first they were about 30 horses (pins) away and well it just made it convienient for me to have the pinned side by side...well that is until I noticed something very annoying to say the least...

Each day I ride one horse the next will be the other and so on and so forth...Well I noticed about a week after I moved India next to Aja if I would ride on Aja, India would consistantly cry out to her (nicker?? I think that's the term) just about the first 15 minutes or so while I ride out to the arena (which is like a hop skip and a jump away, lol) even though she can't see her, she cries out and Aja will holler back but only a few times and is like whatever. BUT if I take India out to ride and heaven forbid Aja nickers to her one time, India is alert and wanting to go back and yes you guessed it, nickering back times twenty!!! I wish I could say I was exaggerating but Im not. Also I have to struggle with her to mind--she gets real stubborn that one there.

This last weekend my daughter and I were in a play day together, her on Aja and me on India...talk about attention getter!! The moment my daughter and Aja would walk away from me, there goes India crying like a big baby!! The WHOLE TIME... of course people were looking, possibly annoyed aswell (can't blame them, really!) I don't know, but I just wish there was a way to stop that, or at least calm it down. Aja has her moments but nothing like India. Any suggestions, PLEASE, I'm all ears!!


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post #2 of 9 Old 10-17-2012, 09:47 PM
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I would try several different things:

1. Separate them again.
2. Make India MOVE HER FEET every time she starts up with her calling. Tell her no sharply and then circle her quickly. When Whiskey started up calling Scooby I would tell her no sharply, bump her, and circle. Then back to business until she called, then I would repeat. She stopped calling for him. (This didn't work for Scooby though, because when I rode him he rarely called out - he just had issues when she left him).
3. Make the horses work hard when they are together, and relax (except for the above) when they are apart. So at the playday when you are together, circle both of them, sidepass, whatever, just don't let them relax. Then when you alone or with other horses, let them stand quietly (in case they call out, in which case do number 2 above).

I feel your pain - Scooby had major seperation issues, would scream his head off at the shows when separated from Whiskey - I had to stall him at the other end of the barn, as far away as we could get him. I tried to keep hay in front of him and keep him content, but he would work himself up. He was all business in the arena, but it was such an irritant I ended up selling him - but made sure his new buyer knew his issues. I hope you have better luck than I did :)

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I will def try those things! Good advice, it could possibly work only because when I first got India she had no clue how to be lunged and would fight and kick--no worries I hired a trainer to handle that girl--took only 2 sessions to get her into the swing of things...but all she needed was to be worked...I found she is sooo much more managable once worked and worked good! Im thinking before each ride take her to the round pin (it's pretty big size round pin) saddle on and lounge her...I think that might help as well and if so be it she starts again once being rode I will circle her and tell her no (firmly in my "man voice" as my daughter likes to say when I get on to the girls (aja and india)...

As for separating them again. I can't. These pins sale like hot cakes round here and India's pin has been taken the day I moved her out. Besides the pin she is in now has a huge storage barn which will be great for this winter--plan to stock up like crazy before cost go up on hay!! Thank you for ur advice--hope this works!!


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I ride a stallion and there's nothing more annoying than a bellowing stallion. I carried a crop at first and I wear round ball equitation spurs. Everytime he's start to bawl, I'd spank him with the crop, stick the spurs into his sides and say, "NO talking.". As soon as he'd stop mid-bawl, I'd pet him and say, "gooooood boy" and now he sometimes thinks about it, but feels me tense up and I say, "NO" and he quits instantly or doesn't even start it. But you have to be consistent, EVERY single time or they won't get it.

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I'm also working with some severe buddy sour-- to the point that my gelding will rear, kick and scream if he's left in the stall without his friend next to him. It won't change overnight but every day is a little easier than the last.

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I ride a stallion and there's nothing more annoying than a bellowing stallion. I carried a crop at first and I wear round ball equitation spurs. Everytime he's start to bawl, I'd spank him with the crop, stick the spurs into his sides and say, "NO talking.". As soon as he'd stop mid-bawl, I'd pet him and say, "gooooood boy" and now he sometimes thinks about it, but feels me tense up and I say, "NO" and he quits instantly or doesn't even start it. But you have to be consistent, EVERY single time or they won't get it.
Im sure I couldn't handle a stallion, lol. I don't have a crop but I do have an over under...which I only use while working in arena (if need be, spurs is usually all it takes) but im thinking this girl is going to need it--plus the circle movement, work her!

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I'm also working with some severe buddy sour-- to the point that my gelding will rear, kick and scream if he's left in the stall without his friend next to him. It won't change overnight but every day is a little easier than the last.
Wow, I hope it doesn't get that severe! So far the only other thing other than the annoying cries are her head going up and down (well trying to at least--tie down in use!) also if Im standing talking to someone she begins to paw at the ground...I firmly tell her no and make her move--it's just being consistant--wish it did change over night-make riding way more enjoyable, lol!
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I've gotten Topaz to the point where I can walk them away from eachother-- but anything out of eyesight for more than a few minutes and he's calling, nose flaring, looking around like a lost kitten.

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My one gelding would go absolutley insane if I took my other boy out to a lesson.. Or we would go away for 4-5 days for horse shows, we ended up getting him a free mini pony to keep him sane while we were gone, it worked great!
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I've gotten Topaz to the point where I can walk them away from eachother-- but anything out of eyesight for more than a few minutes and he's calling, nose flaring, looking around like a lost kitten.
Ha, I would def say India does look like a lost kitten--and those flaring nostrils...sheesh!

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My one gelding would go absolutley insane if I took my other boy out to a lesson.. Or we would go away for 4-5 days for horse shows, we ended up getting him a free mini pony to keep him sane while we were gone, it worked great!
Actually had a friend suggest getting them a pet cat! Sounds kinda funny but a big gelding (16h+) right across our pins has a pet cat! No joke, the cat even sleeps on his back!! Haha, Im desperate so I might just! Haha...


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