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post #1 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 01:34 PM Thread Starter
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Input needed for Saddle Club CODE OF CONDUCT

I did thread several weeks ago about a kid at the new saddle club and his dangerous antics.

In short, this kid runs his horse 99% of the time WIDE OPEN, runs at people, other horses, and the week I posted, had come tearing around a parked vehicle, directly on collision path where I and another woman were sitting in chairs. Only thing that saved me was horse saw me, and swerved, kid did nothing to avoid me.

This kid, and that day two others, got to running, and one of the horses ran bolted, bucked another kid off after running behind another man's trailer where 2 of his horses were tied.

This was before he almost ran me down in the chair. Literally there is no way to keep clear of this demon spawn.

In response to that thread, several of you members made reference to
Codes of Conduct in your clubs for horsepeople.

I mentioned this to my friend who is President of this club, (I am VP) and she said if any of you would be willing to share your club rules, we would build on those to make up something before someone gets killed too.

Western riders so far. Mostly ropers, barrel racers, or people that do some cow work with theirs. Some who mainly want to trail ride too. Only one WP horse so far, mine, and I sure don't want him to get hurt up there, nor my old gelding either. And NOT me!

So please, any help that can be given to us would be appreciated greatly.

Thanks in advance.

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post #2 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 01:46 PM
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I'm not sure what the setup is like where you hold your gatherings, but at every schooling show I've been to there's a rule that says you can't go past a walk outside of the show ring (aka where the trailers, spectators, and people standing around with their horses are).
This kid sounds like an absolute disaster and someone is going to get seriously hurt if something doesn't change ASAP! Good luck!!!
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post #3 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 02:13 PM Thread Starter
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Thing is this is just a arena set up in middle of field at fairgrounds, but that nothing over a walk outside arena would be a good start, plus something saying that no running in arena unless working speed events???
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post #4 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Palomine View Post
Thing is this is just a arena set up in middle of field at fairgrounds, but that nothing over a walk outside arena would be a good start, plus something saying that no running in arena unless working speed events???
To be honest, I'd give the kid a warning of suspension from participating for some amount of time. If he continued, follow through. Needs to learn that if he doesn't slow down, he'll either kill someone, himself, and/or his horse. Especially by running all the time.

Not allowing running unless at a speed event is a good idea, or nothing above a moderate jog/trot unless participating in an event within the arena at the time of riding. As for this kid, though, watch him - if he keeps causing an upset, he might not be right for your club, especially when it involves endangerment of other riders and horses.
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post #5 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 03:10 PM
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I know when I did 4H years ago there were a few rules and some rules I wanted in place. These are some of my thoughts.
1. no going faster than a walk outside the ring.
2. unless you are warming up for a class, or on your way to a class don't be on your horse. This is my own pet peeve. Do you really need to watch a class on horseback? Warm your horse up, do your class and take him back to wash/cool out and put him back with his hay where he wants to be.
3. parents must accompany children on horseback under ___ age.
4. horses not being prepared for a class need to be in the stabling area.
5. no horses in the spectator area.
Again, no need for you to hand graze or or pull shenanigans on your horse next to the ring.
The other thing to do would be to talk to this young persons parents. If I was a parent and my child was putting himself, his horse and others in danger I would want to know. The final thing I would consider is punishment for breaking the rules. I.e, after one violation you are suspended from your class or activities after two you are asked to leave the show. Three incidents and you are unable to attend future events for a period of time.
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I am not currently a member of a roundup club, and don't remember exactly what our rules were (other than they were pretty much plain common sense!). HOWEVER, we are going to a playday tomorrow, and will be joining that roundup club, for the social aspect and horsey aspect, even if I can't ride much (grankids may be riding.) I will see if I can pick up a copy of their rules and type them up for you. One of the officers is a retired school teacher (she taught my girls when they were little.) She doesn't stand for any nonsense, so I KNOW there has to be some written rules in the application for membership.

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post #7 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 03:43 PM
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Does the land owner or barn manager not have a spine ? Seriously you need to sit around and talk about codes and making up rules to deal with a safety hazard like that ? Kick him off the property. Good grief are people that passive they just sit around and wait for someone else to do something to protect themselves ?
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post #8 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 07:13 PM Thread Starter
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To Clarify.

This is held on the NWMO State Fairgrounds, and is NOT a show, nor are there any classes. Just people who show up, offload horses and ride them in the arena of plowed ground, that has just been purchased for "horse activities" at the NWMO State Fair in August.

The Fairgrounds owns the land, there is no "land owner" per se to run the thing. Nor a barn manager, at this point? There isn't a barn, nor stalls, nor even a water hydrant, or potty. Just plowed ground, some panels/fencing, and about 5-10 acres surrounding it. Not even gravel road into it at this point. And south side is bordered by barbed wire fencing between subdivisions yards.

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post #9 of 16 Old 05-26-2012, 07:29 PM Thread Starter
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The rules I've found so far deal more with showing, trail riding, and classes than with the type of thing going on here.

This is just a bunch showing up with horses in trailers, offloading, and riding, or ripsnorting in the kids case.

And sadly not a lot of more formal training or experience from what I've seen. A couple seem to have it more together, and didn't look impressed with kids, but don't know any more about them.

All I know is that unless something is done? Someone will be getting hurt badly, or their horse will be.

Like I wrote in another thread, I did jump kid about running me down in chair, and could tell from his dad's flipped up lip next time I saw him that kid had told him I had hollered at him, but didn't feel like going into it at that point, sick and wanting to get home.

I too think it is ignorant that this should have to be done, as it would seem that anyone with a horse would have some common sense, but we all know how that goes.

Hey Joe? Want to come be our Sergent at Arms?

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what a rule something alone the lines of "Actions/activities that may in anyway endaanger horses, riders or spectators is STRICTLY forbidden and will result in suspension and removal from property."

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