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        10-23-2012, 06:16 PM
      #31
    Green Broke
    Call him a Gypsy Cob or a Gyspy Vanner and you could probably sell him for $10k as long as you're not in a hurry to sell. I don't personally understand the Gypsy Vanner fad... all I can think when I see one is how much of a pain all that hair would be to keep clean!
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        10-23-2012, 06:32 PM
      #32
    QOS
    Green Broke
    He is a cutie patootie and seemed to be a happy camper!
         
        11-02-2012, 09:46 AM
      #33
    Weanling
    It is a hair fad like any other. Tennessee Walkers, Freisians, Andalusians are all considered precious for their long manes and tails. I've seen it with Haflingers and miniatures too. Clydesdales, Percherons. Some people love hair. Personally, Id shave the feathers clean off, but with Vanners, huge feathers and tails dragging 5 feet behind are a thing of pride. Show American Saddlebreds and TN Walkers are considered the same with their tails (5 to 9 feet of hair on the ground!!!!). I've seen it with National Show Horses too, gorgeous tails! Andalusians are known for growing incredible manes too, many I have seen down past the knee.

    Its an opposite to dressage, hunter jumper, and western pleasure where the mane is pulled to a minimum, braided and rolled to show the neck.
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        11-02-2012, 02:16 PM
      #34
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by sjames86    
    I just had to google what a Tinker was, never heard that term used to describe a gypsy cob in this country, lol.

    Well he sold here for 1500 which I believe is about $2400 - although the lady that bought him then sold him on for around 3200 after a couple of months (my friend dropped price low as buyer claimed to offer loving home for life, but turned out to be a dealer after some quick profit! )
    Unfortunately that tends to happen all too often to unsuspecting people. I spent several years as the barn manager for a Zangersheide show jumping facility in Florida, typically dealing with high dollar horses. We would frequently import horses (we had partners in Belgium and Argentina), with our intent known as a dealer; that is, we import the horses, finish their training and compete them in the US, then sell them and share a profit with our partner(s).
    Being a dealer is not a bad thing in the equine industry, provided you're upfront and honest in your operation. In fact, I got several of my personal horses this way.
    Very cute pony, by the way. :)
         
        11-02-2012, 09:48 PM
      #35
    Foal
    I don't know how much, but I want him! (Might have to ask my cousins to send me one for christmas!) I love hair, I like braiding and messing around with it, but im a 'kid'.. I think my mom and trainer would think differently... lol.
         
        11-03-2012, 01:42 PM
      #36
    Started
    Well, while he's obviously a Gypsy Horse and has a couple of minor conformation issues, he's a gelding so it wouldn't matter. Obviously someone has put some bit of training into him too. He seems very willing and moves along nicely.

    There is always a shortage of good, well trained Gypsy geldings, in the US, but that is slowly changing as we as a breed fancy, encourage everyone to geld all colts before sale, unless possible breeding quality. If registered in the US, and groomed properly, he could certainly take someone into the show ring.

    The cost of Gypsies in the US is nowhere near the price they fetched a few years back. Nice colts can be found everywhere, for about or under $3,000. I've seen many for $1,500. According to age of course, it's often a couple of years before they can be under saddle. With the shortage of well trained, Gypsy geldings in the US. This boy could sell for $8 to $10,000. This especially if he had some show ring experience and wins and/or has also been put to the cart. If someone had to sell quickly, then he'd likely sell for much less. Even with his training, it would be unlikely than someone in the US, would import him. That would add about another $10,000 and more, to his cost. Importing is still, extremely expensive.

    If I were buying this horse, I'd want to know who bred him, his sire and dam, his registration and passport status and more. Gypsies are notoriously easy to train, mostly very sweet, easy keepers and definitely people horses. I'd be interested to know why this gelding and your friend, didn't get along.

    Lizzie
         
        11-04-2012, 01:49 AM
      #37
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joidigm    
    It is a hair fad like any other. Tennessee Walkers, Freisians, Andalusians are all considered precious for their long manes and tails. I've seen it with Haflingers and miniatures too. Clydesdales, Percherons. Some people love hair. Personally, Id shave the feathers clean off, but with Vanners, huge feathers and tails dragging 5 feet behind are a thing of pride. Show American Saddlebreds and TN Walkers are considered the same with their tails (5 to 9 feet of hair on the ground!!!!). I've seen it with National Show Horses too, gorgeous tails! Andalusians are known for growing incredible manes too, many I have seen down past the knee.

    Its an opposite to dressage, hunter jumper, and western pleasure where the mane is pulled to a minimum, braided and rolled to show the neck.
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    Where I am from, at shows, owners actually add extensions to their horse's tail to make it look longer than it actually is LoL makes me laugh We have our fair share of hunter/jumpers, western pleasure, etc.. And I like that look better.
         
        11-04-2012, 11:31 AM
      #38
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by countrylove    
    Where I am from, at shows, owners actually add extensions to their horse's tail to make it look longer than it actually is LoL makes me laugh We have our fair share of hunter/jumpers, western pleasure, etc.. And I like that look better.
    I have seen the extensions, especially for quarter horses, appaloosas, or thoroughbreds with pitiful tails lol. There is an unsaid rule of how nice and neat things are desired in those show rings, especially dressage and western pleasure.
         
        11-04-2012, 01:05 PM
      #39
    Started
    Hair extensions have been used in the show ring, for many breeds. Mostly Saddlebreds, but a few other breeds too. It is pretty common.

    As a side-note, I'd like to point out that owning a Gypsy Horse, is not a 'fad'. No more a fad than the thousands who own Quarter Horses or any other breed. Just happen to be our breed of choice. I knew my first Gypsies in the mid '40's. The breed has been popular in many European countries, for a very long time. They were first seen in the US for about 35 years ago.

    We didn't purchase ours as a 'fad' or because others had them. We decided on the breed because we wanted a breed with superb temperament and we like a shorter horse, with lots of bone and body.

    Lizzie
         
        11-04-2012, 03:54 PM
      #40
    Weanling
    I have to say, I think it is so funny that a cob over seas is classed as a fancy horse! He looks like a nice little chap, but it does make me laugh when he's called "fancy"

    They're as common as muck over here, then again, I'm sure you have your fair share of Quarter Horses over there, but over here AQHA reg horses are worth a fortune! (And don't I know it from buying my AQHA reg filly, Red!) It's because there aren't that may over here yet.
         

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