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post #1 of 13 Old 01-01-2014, 11:12 PM Thread Starter
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Interesting question by my dad

I was watching the movie Secretariat with my parents today, and my dad asked an interesting question.
If the jockey happens to fall off, but the horse keeps running and wins the race without a rider on his back... does the horse still win? Prize money, flowers and all?

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post #2 of 13 Old 01-01-2014, 11:18 PM
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No, I believe that as soon as the rider falls off the horse is disqualified because it has an unfair weight advantage.
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Nope! Horses without a jockey don't count as finishers.
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Thanks for the responses! I will tell my dad.

Also, Endiku you spoke of weight advantage. Are there particular rules concerning that. For example if you have a heavier jockey, do the other riders have to have weights tied to the saddles to make it equal/fair?

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Yes the weight for ever horse and rider have to be the same, so they put weight on the horare to make it as equal as possible. At least that's what I have heard.....I should know this though considering I got race horses lol.
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I don't know the technical reasoning (weight or w/e), but as said no. I mean, it's not really fair is it? Nor a good thing to promote. Half the race is the jockey too.
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All jockeys are weighed with their saddles to ensure all horses are carrying the same weight.
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Those that say horses have to carry the same weight are not necessarily correct!

A lot of races are handicaps, where the handicapper a lots weights to each individual horse so, a horse that has won over that distance will carry more weight than a horse that hasn't. This is to try and make the race more even and every horse has a chance.

There are also weight allowances for apprentice jockeys and in the UK, steeplechase races have a 4 lb allowance for mares.

Big races on the flat they usually carry the same weight and jockeys have the choice of carrying weight (lead) in a weight cloth which goes under the saddle, or using a heavier saddle.

All jockeys have to weigh in before a race to make sure they are carrying the correct weight. If they are heavier it has to be announced to the punters. After the race they have to weigh out. A jockey has to take the horse's saddle off himself and has to go straight to the weigh scales. Of by some chance they are lighter they can also weigh out with the horse's bridle. If they are underweight then they are disqualified.
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Thanks for the detailed response Foxhunter!
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So if I understand correctly, being lighter than required is a no no, but being a bit heavier is alright?

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If they are heavier it has to be announced to the punters.
There is a minimum weight but not exactly a maximum? The heavier weight is only announced but not disqualified?

I am thinking of those few jockeys that are a bit taller and heavier than the rest. I might be wrong, but I get the impression that today jockeys aren't so much starving themselves anymore to make weight requirements like they used to. Is that because the maximum weight is higher... or there is no max weight?

Sorry I am a little confused, as one can see.

Thanks so much for all the answers guys!

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