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        12-04-2011, 12:47 AM
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    Jumping Prospect??

    What do you think:

    Oliver James

    Breed: Thoroughbred Sex: Gelding
    Color: Bay Birth Date: Jan 1, 2001
    Height: 16.3 hh Weight: 1050.0 lbs
    Registry: N/A Reg. #: N/A

    Additional Comments:
    If you're looking for a horse that will take you to the top, then he is the one.
    This gelding has had pro training in dressage, has been started over fences and cross country courses and is even a champ on trail! He has very fluid gaits, and has the most remarkable extended trot. Oliver is an incredible mover, who looks more like a Warmblood than a Thoroughbred! He will go over anything, including logs, jumps and bridges in either a western saddle, english saddle, or just plain bareback with a halter! I have recently ridden this gelding right next to highway 99, through many drive-thru's, and on other busy streets. He didn't even flinch at the cars, kids, or bicycles that went past him. He will go out alone, or in a group! He is broke, broke, broke, but does require an intermediate rider, or advanced beginner with a trainer present.

    This gelding is a massive 16.3 hands, 10 years old, and has muscle and heart to spare! He is such a sweetheart, and will not only be the first one at the gate, but will come to you right when he sees you. He is a very people-type horse who loves love! Trailers, bathes, great for the farrier, and will stand tied all day. You won't find a better gelding at this price!

    This gelding is priced to move! I will consider a partial trade for a running car under 8 years old.

    Here is a video of him doing his first attempt at a cross country course. He was jumping logs and fallen trees.


    Here is a video of him jumping, although it is a little far away.
    http://www.equinenow.com/videos/7507732.htm

    Opinions anyone? Seems like a great price. Oh yeah, here is a picture


    Thanks loads!
         
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        12-07-2011, 06:05 PM
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    Hard to tell much from the video. And anytime anyone says:
    1. Does require an intermediate rider, or advanced beginner with a trainer present.
    2. Has muscle and heart to spare
    I usually assume he is pretty darn strong. He seems like he might be a nice horse but in the picture he doesn't look to be 16.3hh or professionally trained in dressage. Also do you know what profesionally trained means to this person? What level of professional? He might be a project. But I guess that is ok if that is what you want. I COULD definitely be wrong, I am just working from my experiance with horse ads. If you are really interested go ride him and maybe ask for a trial run. Just kind of on a side note I have never seen this in an ad: This gelding is priced to move! I will consider a partial trade for a running car under 8 years old.
    Just thought that was an unusual request... Also it says nothing of his soundness. Ask for a pre-purchase exam, split the price, or do one yourself if you are really interested. You can do a 1/2 one for about 1/2 the price.
         
        12-07-2011, 08:29 PM
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    Thanks!
         
        12-10-2011, 11:18 AM
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    Originally Posted by myhorsehasmentalissues    
    He seems like he might be a nice horse but in the picture he doesn't look to be 16.3hh or professionally trained in dressage. Also do you know what profesionally trained means to this person? What level of professional?
    This is a very good question to ask oneself when horse shopping. Generally, I think people say their horse is professionally trained when they've paid anyone to train the horse- it doesn't say anything about who the person they paid was and if they were any good at it.

    I'm not really sure why sellers like to over-hype things that are clearly shortcomings in the videos and/or pictures. I recently e-mailed a seller to ask for video of a horse (buying my first horse now ) who was supposed to have a full year of professional, full-time dressage training, and when she sent the video, the horse was running around with her nose in the air the whole time, even though she was being ridden by the trainer. I figured if the horse was in professional training her for that long and still wasn't able to carry herself then I had no chance at getting her to do it and passed.

    To the OP, this looks like a potentially decent horse, but it sounds to me like the seller is a little prone to exaggerating and you'd have to go see him in person to really know for sure. He may have wonderful, fluid gaits, but the photo of him has him quite heavily on the forehand.

    It's also a bit weird that the horse is not registered, but is an OTTB (per the video description). I'm pretty sure he'd have to be registered with the Jockey Club.
         
        12-10-2011, 12:38 PM
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    What is his price? Other than the partial trade for the car?

    Here's my reading of this ad: This horse is 10 years old and hasn't really been off the farm, shown or competed at anything. The are showing a grainy video of him jumping logs cross country, but don't have a still shot of him over fences which is standard to sell a horse as a performance horse.

    They claim professional dressage training but only have a photo the horse in a very rudimentary Training Level frame at something less than a working trot. Hmmmm.

    The first question I would ask the seller is why he hasn't done more at his age.

    He may be worth looking at, and he may be a diamond in the rough. They may have bought him and for reasons completely unrelated to him let him sit for years.

    Or he may a 10 year old "evergreen."
         
        12-10-2011, 01:38 PM
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    Originally Posted by maura    
    What is his price?

    $2300 I believe
         
        12-10-2011, 01:39 PM
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    Also, I have a dressage horse, I am looking for a jumping horse.
         

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