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    07-23-2011, 12:10 PM
  #1
Foal
Just trying to prepare myself....

So at the barn, we have this woman who works every day during the week. She feeds, does stalls, etc etc. However, she is very lazy and very forgetful. I had my horse on sand lbaster, pre-bagged it for seven days, and its been something like two months now and more than half of it is still there, even though I wrote it on my horses little feed thing, put his name on the bag, and the dates it was to be given. I also learned that she is essentially responsible for a horse colicing last night---she's supposed to bring this Arab in super early, hose him off, and let him cool down in his stall while she brings everyone else in and then feed him. Well I guess the owner went out there and he was still out while everyone else was being brought in, so she brought him in herself, and then when he was fed with everyone else, he had a mild bout of colic. Nothing serious, but its still colic.

Next Saturday I am having my gelding scoped for ulcers. He can't eat for sixteen hours before the procedure, and can't drink for six hours. His appointment is at 930 in the morning, which means that he will have to come in and have finished eating by five thirty, which means he should probably come in at about 330 just to be safe. He can't be fed on Saturday morning, and although I plan on putting signs up with bright red marker on his feed door, his stall door, both of his feed bins, and the barn bulletin board as well as tell her myself, I still do not trust this woman.

I am going to ask the BO to just drop by and make sure he's in at around 4 or so, but in case the BO has some other plans and can't make that happen and this woman happens to screw something up and my procedure has to be rescheduled, would it be unheard of to require the barn worker to pay for my procedure (We wouldn't know until he was already sedated and scoped whether or not everything went according to plan)? From a legal standpoint I mean, or heck even just a moral one.
     
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    07-23-2011, 12:37 PM
  #2
Started
I might be wrong, but I think you would have no recourse about this and certainly can't make the barn help pay. If there are instructions for a medical procedure that are different than usual because of the procedure, then I would assume it is up to you to make sure it is done.
You might need to go bring him in yourself, make sure he is fed when you need him to be, water and then take it way when you need and that is the only way to make sure it is done as you need.
The lady who feeds is an employee of the barn owner, not your employee. If she is not feeding correctly now, I can't imagine she will not feed water for the upcoming surgery. If there is a problem, then you need to go talk to the barn owner and tell them what is going on
     
    07-23-2011, 01:20 PM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
I might be wrong, but I think you would have no recourse about this and certainly can't make the barn help pay. If there are instructions for a medical procedure that are different than usual because of the procedure, then I would assume it is up to you to make sure it is done.
You might need to go bring him in yourself, make sure he is fed when you need him to be, water and then take it way when you need and that is the only way to make sure it is done as you need.
The lady who feeds is an employee of the barn owner, not your employee. If she is not feeding correctly now, I can't imagine she will not feed water for the upcoming surgery. If there is a problem, then you need to go talk to the barn owner and tell them what is going on
I cannot be out there to do what needs to be done because I work full time. The earliest I could possibly be out at the barn is 7, and by then that's no help at all.

I'm assuming the BO knows, I was going to talk to her today but she was with other boarders helping them pick up some new horses, and she doesn't work at all on Sundays so I wouldn't see her. She certainly knows the woman is lazy as all get out and knows that she is forgetful, but she's available five days a week and as long as no horse is special she does what needs to be done.

Just wondering why do you think she would she not be responsible? From my point of view, I see it as: I am a full boarder, and I pay the barn owner to pay her to take care of my horse. If I have signs everywhere and I have told her myself, then it is on HER if something is off, the same way it would be if made a mistake and put a stallion out with the mares (we don't have any stallions but that's an example) and one of the mares got pregnant. At that point, wouldn't it be her negligence?
     
    07-23-2011, 01:28 PM
  #4
Green Broke
If you are paying for her to do the work then you probably do have some recourse but I am not a lawyer so I don't garentee it.

I personaly would be super pissed off at her and I'd be having a word with the BO about her and I wouldnt be paying for a service that I am not getting!
     
    07-23-2011, 01:42 PM
  #5
Foal
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Originally Posted by faye    
I personaly would be super pissed off at her and I'd be having a word with the BO about her and I wouldnt be paying for a service that I am not getting!
LOL yeah....the BO has not had the pleasure of seeing me pissed off yet, hopefully that won't happen. I don't know what happened with the other boarder yet or how she took to her horse colicing.

The ironic part is I want to move to pasture board for September so I'll be doing 95% of the work, and all she would have to do is dump his feed twice a day, which would have his supplements already in it. But she doesn't know that yet, so I would expect "full board" treatment.
     
    07-23-2011, 05:45 PM
  #6
Showing
Why not talk to the woman and give her a bonus to prepare the horse for the tests. It would make her feel appreciated. People tip their hairdressers and waitresses, taxi drivers, why not the barn help?
     
    07-23-2011, 06:33 PM
  #7
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Why not talk to the woman and give her a bonus to prepare the horse for the tests. It would make her feel appreciated. People tip their hairdressers and waitresses, taxi drivers, why not the barn help?
Quite honestly, because as someone who's worked at a barn before, I wouldn't expect or need to be tipped. If someone asked me to bring their horse in early for anything, even just so that they can go on a trail ride after work, I did it. That was my job. I knew that I as a boarder, would be pissed off if it wasn't done and I had asked that it do it, especially when considering that this is an expensive medical treatment. Tips are nice but from me at least, they have to be earned through quality service, which I have not seen yet from her.
     
    07-23-2011, 07:20 PM
  #8
Banned
Put up reminders around the barn the day before.
Maybe write it out on a dry erase board and attach to the front of his stall.
ALSO, leave messages for ALL the responsible parties
(ie. Text messages, emails, Facebook, post it notes etc.) so that NO ONE has the excuse of not getting the memo.

Sadly, usually,..., if you want a job done right, you have to do it yourself.
Doesn't really seem right, but people do forget, or resent being asked to do 'above and beyond' their usual duties.

Be optimistic,.., Go into it with the idea that she will remember,
And you have preempted the situation with enough notes, messages, etc.
Hopefully, things will go as planned.

Good luck.

I do not think you have any grounds to make anyone else pay if things don't go off accordingly.
Probably, you would have to just reschedule the procedure.
     
    07-23-2011, 07:45 PM
  #9
Foal
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Originally Posted by WhoaNow    
Put up reminders around the barn the day before.
Maybe write it out on a dry erase board and attach to the front of his stall.
ALSO, leave messages for ALL the responsible parties
(ie. Text messages, emails, Facebook, post it notes etc.) so that NO ONE has the excuse of not getting the memo.

Sadly, usually,..., if you want a job done right, you have to do it yourself.
Doesn't really seem right, but people do forget, or resent being asked to do 'above and beyond' their usual duties.

Be optimistic,.., Go into it with the idea that she will remember,
And you have preempted the situation with enough notes, messages, etc.
Hopefully, things will go as planned.

Good luck.

I do not think you have any grounds to make anyone else pay if things don't go off accordingly.
Probably, you would have to just reschedule the procedure.
Thank you. I plan on doing everything I can, so after work I am going out there to turn off his water and hang the buckets myself, but unfortunately, getting off work three hours early to feed my horse is impractical and wouldn't fly with my boss....especially when its a pay day, lol

Honestly, I REALLY don't understand why she wouldn't be liable...If he was injured or something because of her forgetfulness, she would be liable, so why can't she be liable for the price of a medical procedure she might ruin?
-sigh- Unfortunately, I don't have any way of contacting her, just the BO. So when I ask her to go out there, I'll ask her to remind the woman as well.

I'm really hoping my BO will be able to stop by the barn (she doesn't live there) because I just have a feeling that if this woman is not willing to bring in a horse early to let him cool off a bit before eating, she's not going to want to bring my horse in, either.

But I am posting plenty of signs Thursday night, even if it does look ridiculous.
     

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