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    12-06-2013, 07:47 PM
lease terms... question

I will eventually get the details from my trainer, but in the mean time... What are generally the terms for half leases (more specifically for the riding schedules).

My logic makes me suppose that an agreement is made between the horse owner and lessee about when they can come and ride. That way the owner knows when they can come ride their horse, or for a school horse, what day they can be used for in lessons.

My problem is, my work schedule in the summer can be super inconsistent at times! My days off change, and I never get the same evening shifts (which are 12pm to 8pm), and being a "senior" this summer, I will probably get a lot of those shifts until the newbies learn the ropes and can be trusted.

Finishing at 8, it would be too late to go ride after, and starting at 12pm, it's not late enough to ride in the morning! Not unless I went to ride at 7am, but then I'd be scared that if something happened, I'd be late for work (my barn is off the island of montreal, and generally rush hour (and almost every other hour for that matter) on the bridge is hell because lanes are always closed for maintenance purposes... our bridges are all crumbling). -.- And there is no way I can ask my boss to give me a consistent schedule... long story short, he isn't exactly easy to please and last summer he got reeeally mad because people kept asking for days off and restricting him to when they can and cannot work, so his grumpy self became extra exra touchy... and I'd rather not vex the dragon and loose my job.

But anywho, what have been your agreements with leases in the past? How flexible can they be, or how inflexible? Again, when I have my lesson in 2 weeks I will ask my trainer, but I'd like to get a general idea for now. So please, pour out your knowledge!
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    12-06-2013, 08:01 PM
If there is a standard for half leases (which there isn't really...) it's that you are assigned 3 days of the week, and only you get to ride the horse on those days. Depending on the situation those days may or may not be flexible. Some half leases don't give you 3 days, and some don't even give you full days (e.g. The horse might be used for a lesson or two in the morning, with you able to ride in the evening) It really is up to the specific contract you sign, and if the horse you're looking at leasing can't be that flexible, you may be able to find someone else willing to lease their horse who can be.

When I half leased school horses from my barn (before I bought my own) they weren't being used in a lot of lessons and didn't have another person half leasing, so I got to ride whenever I wanted (it was pretty much a full lease for half price!)
    12-06-2013, 11:29 PM
Thanks a lot for the reply. Hopefully I'll end up having a similar situation where the time is flexible. :)
    12-07-2013, 03:43 AM
Green Broke
Most half leases that I know of involve the person leasing the horse, and being assigned three days a week to ride based on her and the owner's schedules. If you look in the right place then you may be able to find someone that is flexible with days. Look at it from the other point of view though- it's much less complicated for you and the owner to just know what days you can and cannot ride. No worrying about contacting the other party, or making sure the horse doesn't get worked twice. If I were half leasing a horse out I would be a bit flexible once a week or so with my current schedule. There are two days a week I can't go though, so those would definitely be the days that the other person would be allowed.
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    12-07-2013, 04:05 AM
Will you be leasing from a "school" barn? I mean, will it be from a barn where the horse is used in a lesson string?

Best would be to find someone who doesnt really have time to ride very often, so they are very happy to have you ride, and thus are almost always able to have you ride any time you can.

However, I realize that is sort of a "dream" lease. But if you have 3 set days, at least you can try to work your work schedule around that.

Hope you find something suitable.
    12-07-2013, 10:37 AM
I can either lease one of my trainers school horses or a boarders horse. It will really depend what is available in may (when I shall probably start). Many of the boarders come very often to ride their horses but they half lease for monetary reasons. My trainer did mention however one person who couldnt come out to ride very often. Sigh... I will have to speak with her after a lesson. Because then there is alao the fact that id probably lease for no more than 2, maybe (if im lucky) 3 months. And an owner might prefer someone consistent. Hmm, maybe if im really lucky someone will go on a 2 month vacation somewhere. ;) I guess I. Will have to wait and see. Thanks everyone for the replies! Its a shame I find so many flexible leases online but they are really not in my barns area, and I want to stay with my trainer.
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    12-07-2013, 10:51 AM
Look at it from the other point of view though- it's much less complicated for you and the owner to just know what days you can and cannot ride. No worrying about contacting the other party, or making sure the horse doesn't get worked twice.
I completely understand that. Honestly I'd much prefer it that way. I don't want to constantly be stressed about contacting the person to tell them when I can ride, and I don't want to bother them. Hopefully everything shall workout.
    12-07-2013, 01:18 PM
Green Broke
You may want to look around at other barns in your area too. If there's a decent horse at a different barn with a really flexible owner, don't necessarily limit yourself.

If I'm understanding right, you're basically just looking to lease a horse during the summer months? Lots of people travel during that time, so you may luck out. Two summers ago I was doing an internship in another city and not able to ride 5 days a week. I rode on Monday and Tuesdays when I was in town, but if a lease person had been available and willing to only go for a couple of months then they could have ridden any of the other five days. Every situation is different, so you just need to look around and hope that your needs match up with someone else's.
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