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post #11 of 21 Old 01-20-2014, 06:19 PM Thread Starter
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Well I decided to end the lease. Actually she ended it first, with an angry email about how we "misled" her and she had no idea it was a lease, she thought it was a "shared" horse! She also claimed to have no idea the horse actually belongs to my husband, which was made very clear from the beginning. Later she emailed again begging me to let her back in and suggesting we just forget this whole incident. I told her I needed some time to think things through. But very soon I decided I did not want to continue with any of this, and my husband supported me on that. He offerred to be the one to tell her, since he owns the horse, and he has gone to do that now. I KNOW she is going to break down crying and beg and plead, but we still have no idea who else could have trimmed the horse's feet so do not want to allow anyone on the property anymore. I spent several days feeling very sick and mentally stressed over this whole thing, and that is not a basis for a healthy relationship at all!
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post #12 of 21 Old 01-20-2014, 06:52 PM
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I think you made the right decision. Always listen to your own instincts, it sounds as though this lady may be unstable.
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post #13 of 21 Old 01-20-2014, 07:01 PM
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Honestly, it sounds like she has other, more serious issues, lying being among them. I would make sure to put a lock on your property if you in any way can. I would not be surprised if she came back on the property and tried to take the horse or "make sure she is cared for correctly".

If I thought a horse I leased wasn't being cared for correctly and was in danger in some way, I would of course tell the owner what I thought. If the owner didn't agree however, I am not going to take matters into my own hands, I would either offer to buy the horse or cancel the lease.
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post #14 of 21 Old 01-20-2014, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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Yes I am a little nervous, and I also feel pretty bad about the whole thing. She pretty much slammed the door in my husband's face when he told her. We live in a small community and this could get ugly. This whole thing started out as a favor because she was recovering from cancer and I thought it would help her in some way. But I barely knew the woman and I have learned a valuable lesson out of all this: DON'T enter into a contract with someone you don't know unless you are a lawyer or are very experienced at writing contracts! My a** is covered here thankfully (in a legal sense), but I don't know how vindictive she is or what she will try to do to my reputation in the community. I seriously don't think she will do anything to the horses. They are at the extreme far end of a dead end road with neighbors all around.
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post #15 of 21 Old 01-20-2014, 08:51 PM
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Well KatieQ, keep your head held high and be yourself. If it is a small community, then she is probably known well enough and for the same reasons you decided to end the lease (a bit kooky and very overstepping).

I wouldn't worry about it, and let the dust settle.
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post #16 of 21 Old 01-20-2014, 11:12 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Walkamile, I want to steal your name but that would make ME ugly...
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post #17 of 21 Old 01-21-2014, 05:12 AM
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I could appreciate the level of care and love she was giving your mare, but when it comes to the health of the horse she crossed the line. I Will sometimes work my BOs horses but i wont even turn them out without asking, much less calling a farrier. My mare has gone up to 9 weeks (farrior broke his leg -_-' so bf had to do them) without a trim. yeah she was long but good god it did not kill her to wait an extra week. I would only be 'OK' with a vet being called on my horse if 1, they were paying. Im not paying for a vet bill that was completely unnecessary (or could have waited) and was without my consent. And 2, its an emergency. A horse limping from a crappy trim is not vet worthy, its time off until the hoof grows. If it gets worst THEN you call a vet. I have thought about leasing out my mare to help cover cost but the thought of dealing with some idiot doesn't sit well. I also would not do that until i brand my mare, as i don't need someone deciding that they love my mare more than id do, and steal her.
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post #18 of 21 Old 01-21-2014, 11:37 AM
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OP IMPO I do not think you have heard the last from the woman.
She appears unstable emotionally.
Have NO further contact with her.
When she tells everyone what a bad person and how mistreated your horse is. Ignore the rumours. They are not true and she cant make them true.
You, your husband, and your friends know better.
If she does come to your house call the police. Show her the relationship is over....completely and that your mean business.
Good luck. Shalom
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post #19 of 21 Old 01-21-2014, 12:10 PM
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^^^^^ what he said. Given her history she will probably not go away quietly. Be prepared and be strong. Don't internalize her actions & words, because her behavior is a reflection of her - not you.
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post #20 of 21 Old 01-21-2014, 12:43 PM
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I have mentioned on a few different threads here that my older mare Ali was partially leased out to a woman to help cover expenses, and to get some much needed exercise. But my lessee was getting on my nerves, to say the least. Not only was she becoming very pushy and possessive about the horse, she is very neurotic and a total worry-wart. She had told me at the beginning that she rode a lot when she was younger, but it quickly became evident that this was not true. Since the mare is very beginner-safe I let this slide, and thought maybe it was just nervousness about getting on a horse after a long time. I did convince her to take a few lessons, but they didn't help much. She seemed to only be focused on spending time with the horse and "pampering" i.e. - spoiling her. She became obsessive about it, and started reading every article on horse care she could get her hands on. Then she would come to me with "suggestions" of ways to make this horse's life better. She bought joint supplements, hoof supplements, coat supplements, and it got to the point where she was eating more supplements than real feed, when all she really needed was some good hard exercise. It seemed I could never do enough to please this woman; she obviously wanted the horse to be kept in a perfectly sterile, heated barn with polished marble floors and pure mineral water flowing into crystal basins. Instead she lives in my 6 acre field with a very basic run-in surrounded by mud, as we live in a rainforest. A few days ago she emailed me to inform me that Ali needed her feet done, by Friday at the latest! Well that got my back up, to say the least. I told her the farrier was coming NEXT Friday, and that her feet were not that bad, her toes were getting slightly long but that was not a problem considering she never rides her. The next day I came home from work to find fresh hoof trimmings in the ring and Ali with newly-trimmed toes! That was the last straw. I emailed her and said she had no right to get a different farrier without my permission (the last time she did that the mare was lame for 4 months due to a bad trim, which also resulted in her calling the vet out without my permission!) She claimed to have no idea what I was talking about, and denied having a farrier, and actually got very angry at me. Meanwhile my own farrier called and was coming THIS Friday instead (yesterday), so I had him look at the trimmings and at Aliís feet. He agreed the trimmings were less than a day or two old, and said someone had worked on her feet but it was not a professional. I concluded that the lessee had trimmed them herself, using a pair of nippers that were left here from the previous barn owner. Now this woman is refusing to speak to me (thank God!), and it appears my problems with her are over. In a way I am very relieved, but I still canít get over the audacity of some people, and that now she is mad at ME over this! I will have to find a new lessee or re-home the mare, as I have two young geldings I am starting and have neither the time nor money for all three.

Wow! I would go OFF. I am so thankful.for my lesser. She is awesome to my horse & me. I also give her lessons & she has NEVER acted like that. She always checkd with me before she does anything. New bits, farrier, bridle & saddle changes. Anything.
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