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post #11 of 16 Old 07-09-2014, 09:05 AM
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I think that they told you he was euth so you wouldn't be so heartbroken. They were trying to be nice. No one wants a young, healthy horse to die, but accidents happen.
I'm sorry for the horse, but you shouldn't keep thinking abot the most horrible ways he might have died. You don't know, you can't know. Let yourself mourn for your loss, but don't try to imagine the worst things, he's dead anyway and he can't suffer no more.
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post #12 of 16 Old 07-09-2014, 12:35 PM
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I know that, but I don't think it was pain free. He said he was healthy and he thinks it may have been a kick from another horse.. Can a horse die instantly and painlessly that way?
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I'm not a horse and I don't know, but truthfully I can tell you this..

When I had my accident I remember Ben taking a huge plunge, I can still see that huge arched neck, and flying black mane.

The next thing I remember is wondering why the heck I was lying on the floor, and who all the people were.

The thing after that was the pain

If I had never would have woken up I would have known anything, so yes I believe that if he was kicked in the head with enough force, then his lights would of switched off instantly and he would have known nothing about it.
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post #13 of 16 Old 07-09-2014, 12:54 PM
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Worrying over how he MAY have died is pointless. It doesn't change it, it will not change it. You can't verify what happened and you never will be able to. Mourn the loss of your friend but let go of the dramatics. Nothing will change what happened to him and nothing will let you find out for sure either. They were likely trying to do you a kindness by giving you the story they did. Why would you even probe it? Did you think they would lie that be was read and you would find him alive and in someone's barn?
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post #14 of 16 Old 07-09-2014, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
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Okay guys, so here's the thing. I had an inkling that something else had happened. I contacted his owners before me because, honestly, his owners ignored me for two years before I found out he was dead. They didn't honor our agreement about keeping tabs or anything, and then hes just all of a sudden dead. I had messaged his previous owners to tell them that he had died and they didn't believe it. They told me that their buddy, who lives in the same area, was given Java THIS YEAR and as far as they know he still had him. So I messaged this guy, he did say that he thought he had him, checked his Standardbreds for tattoos and none of them matched Java. He swore that he had owned the horse, then all of a sudden he died last year. I'm not focusing anymore on how he died, I know he's gone. It's just really confusing for me. Yes, I had hope that he was still alive. I had made plans to buy him again.
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post #15 of 16 Old 07-09-2014, 08:38 PM
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Horses die, people die, it sucks but it happens.

People don't keep tabs. Every horse I've sold or bought has pretty much been followed up by the "let me know how it's going, keep in touch" etc, and it usually doesn't. It's just something people say to make everyone else feel better about the sale. It's not fair to put it on the new owners to keep in touch. Sales are final. They don't come with emotional attachments.

These people "lied" to you to save you exactly this. The second guessing, the worrying. It sounds like he died like horses die, outside, free, living a life that a horse wants to live.

It's hard, but try not to be angry or betrayed. I don't think these people were malicious or did anything wrong, they were just trying to make something sound nicer than it was. Mourn him, but don't let yourself obsess over this.
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post #16 of 16 Old 07-11-2014, 03:51 AM
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Off topic but intresting:

I knew a guy (local horse trader with a bad name) that got into trouble for selling a "dead" horse. He originally sold the horse to one person then a few days later, while the horse was being boarded at the place of purchase "mysteriously died" and burried. The new owner was out of town at the time of the "death" and when she came back her horse was gone and was told it had died and was even shown a "grave sight" but was never contacted about the so called death during the few days she was away. She was heart broken but was also skeptical.
A few weeks had past and someone who knew about the "mysterious death" came forward and told the girl that the horse was sold again to another person out from under her. The new purchaser never even knew that the horse had already been purchased before her. She testified in court along with the handler that gave up the information about the swindle and the original purcahser took this crook to court. He was forced to return the money to the original purchaser.....he never spent a day in jail (which I think he should have). This guy even went as far as to make a fake grave site. How pathetic is that.? All in the name of getting more money.

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