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        05-14-2010, 06:20 AM
      #11
    Yearling
    Are you going to go back to the very basics of the trust. Like "sitting in the paddock with a bag of carrots" thing? You know I would be there right now with you, but yeah... he isn't looking to happy. And I do sorta love my head where it is ;p.
         
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        05-14-2010, 06:21 AM
      #12
    Started
    That's horrible, I'm so sorry. Are you positive they beat him?

    The thing I saw in the vids was a horse taking advantage of you. You can clearly see that you're timid and afraid of him and he is clearly showing you that he doesn't want to work and he's going to do what he wants. He's chasing you because he's the herd boss. Running away won't help any problems.

    With the saddle pad, you're walking up to him showing all your fear, He's picking up on that. You're also walking up too slow and too creepy, so he thinks "hell, I can get away with it if all I do is put my ears back and move my butt."
         
        05-14-2010, 06:26 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by White Foot    
    That's horrible, I'm so sorry. The thing I saw in the vids was a horse taking advantage of you. You can clearly see that you're timid and afraid of him and he is clearly showing you that he doesn't want to work and he's going to do what he wants. He's chasing you because he's the herd boss. Running away won't help any problems.

    With the saddle pad, you're walking up to him showing all your fear, He's picking up on that. You're also walking up too slow and too creepy, so he thinks "hell, I can get away with it if all I do is put my ears back and move my butt."
    I so agree with your first part. I'm getting my instructor out as I mentioned above (Shes coming tomorow). I had no experianced horse people with me and when he'd gone at me like he had with the fence (apart from no fence) I did not feel comfortable ignoring,ect his running at me. With the saddle pad. He prefers things really slow. One step at a time, I know that sounds stupid but he really does. What he had done previous times I'd walked up to him with the pad was completely kick out so I was warry of that. But as I said my instructor should be with me tomorow and from then on I should be a whole lot more confident with the situation. I just need some guiding. After the videos were taken dad did come out and having dad who is 6ft 4 around made me a whole lot more confident as well. I am not trying to deny, make up excuses or say you are wrong. I am just telling you what had previously/before hand gone on and a few other details. But overall if my instructor had been with me when he ran at me I would have been able to deal with the situation a whole lot easier.
         
        05-14-2010, 06:30 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    You're really not having a good run lately are you. Just remember to stay calm & confident with him and to advance & release.

    If you don't mind me asking, how do you know that went at him with whips? Did they leave them out? Not trying to have a go in any way, just curious.
         
        05-14-2010, 06:33 AM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Yes they did leave them out, also the way he reacted to them -- I use to be able to stand on his back and crack a stock whip.
         
        05-14-2010, 06:36 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Oh ok. I was just wondering, I have had horses get traumatised by people in the paddock too. Its very hard to see the work you've done with a horse be destroyed by other peoples stupidity.
         
        05-14-2010, 06:36 AM
      #17
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by ChingazMyBoy    
    Yes they did leave them out, also the way he reacted to them -- I use to be able to stand on his back and crack a stock whip.
    aww poor boy. Maybe my crop is bring all the bad luck? Lol. I sure hope not. I must be cursed
         
        05-14-2010, 08:27 AM
      #18
    Trained
    Maddie when you approach him with the saddle blanket, you look like you're about to ambush him. Try to approach with it closed, and casual, not like you're about to throw it at him. That may be playing a part in why he got so stressed about it. Try walking up to him casually, talking to him, offer him a carrot, then go about slipping the saddle pad on him.

    I do have to agree with White Foot, he may be scared if being have stirred him up in the paddock, but he appears to be an aggressive/dominant type of horse in response to fear. Some will cower at the back of their yard, Chinga lunges at you with teeth bared to make you move out of his space.
    I would go right back to basics as someone said above, just stand in there casually with a bag of carrots. Let him remember that you're not going to hurt him. If he didn't associate you with the pain and anxiety of being 'beaten' then it will be easier to get his trust back. I wouldn't even go near him with a halter at the moment, you want to make yourself look as 'friendly' as possible. However, when he lunges at you like that, don't bolt out of the way. He has won, he's driven you out of his space, that is teaching him that aggressive behaviour is effective. Of course we don't want you getting hurt, so it's probably better for a very confident experienced person to do this, but when he lunges, lunge right back at him. Walk towards him, get into his space and make HIM move away from YOU. Once he moves away, then you can back off and mind your own business. It'll make him think twice about lunging at you.
         
        05-14-2010, 08:31 AM
      #19
    Yearling
    That is awful, horrible, terrible, and unbelievable. I cannot wait til you catch the idiots.
         
        05-14-2010, 08:34 AM
      #20
    Banned
    I also agree with WhiteFoot. This horse has your number and he is in charge, totally!
         

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