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        04-03-2013, 01:54 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    Honestly? Its not any of your business. I can get the part of her assuming you to do her "dirty work" for her, but apart from that I can't. She will learn. Whether its the hard way or the easy way. Who knows, she may have a change of heart.
         
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        04-03-2013, 07:43 AM
      #22
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    I'm going to have to agree with everything Alex has said.

    OP - We all have to start somewhere, and I personally think 12 is a perfectly acceptable age for a beginner rider. The horse will get proper care as it is being boarded so I can't see any reason to be concerned for the horse. It will allow this little girl plenty of access to get lessons and become a better rider/horse person. This horse could possibly teach this girl how to be a rider - we all know that the more time spent in the saddle, the quicker our progression. I'm sure after 6 months of lessons that plenty of us were sacks of potatos, heck I feel like one after taking time off having kids. IMO, You should think about motivating the girl to become a better horseperson rather than do you best to put her off.
         
        04-03-2013, 08:26 AM
      #23
    Weanling
    OP, I can sympathize and I understand your frustration.

    My daughter (10) has been riding and showing for almost two years now. Last summer our neighbor's daughter expressed an interest in riding. She attented camp at our barn (we board) and came to one show to watch Kitten.

    Suddenly her parents were determined to buy her a horse because she really wanted one of her own. Kitten had a horse, so she needed her own horse too!

    I tried explaining that Kitten had taken lessons for almost a year, had shown on lesson horses and we leased Acey for 9 months prior to purchasing her. I knew they had money problems (they talked about it all the time), so I warned them about the high cost of owning, boarding, and showing horses. Nothing I said mattered.

    They ended up purchasing a green broke 6 year old mare because she was pretty and cheap. They thought the daughter and the horse could learn together. They got mad and fired the trainer (my daughter's trainer/coach) because she had the nerve to tell them their horse was nothing special, not suited for their stated riding goals, and potentially dangerous (green horse + beginning rider = potential disaster!). This horse has terrible ground manners and has dragged the daughter around when she's holding the lead and bitten the mother more than once.

    About a two months after buying this horse, they have a huge fight with the BO at my barn and pull the horse. The problem? The BO wasn't doing enough for their special baby. They wanted her stalled, but outside, but not too long because she has a white face and might sunburn. They wanted her blanketed because it was cold, but now she's too hot and the blanket should have been removed. They wanted her with other horses but not if they were going to pick on her. In other words, they were high maintenance owners at a low maintenance barn. The straw that broke the camels back was when the barn "starved" their horse by turning her out in a rich grass filled paddock with no hay (she was grain fed 2x per day and had hay in her stall). Because horses NEED hay at all times, even when fresh grass is abundant. *sigh*

    So now the horse is over 30 minutes away at a 100% self-care barn with no arena, no trainer, and a dry lot that is 1/3 the size of the paddocks at our old barn.

    I have just stepped away from the situation. I don't offer advice any more because it does no good. I feel for the horse and fear for the daughter...but honestly, there is nothing I can do except pray no one gets hurt.
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        04-03-2013, 08:48 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HorseMom1025    
    I have just stepped away from the situation. I don't offer advice any more because it does no good. I feel for the horse and fear for the daughter...but honestly, there is nothing I can do except pray no one gets hurt.
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        04-03-2013, 10:40 AM
      #25
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    I don't understand why you would feel obligated to help these people if they have problems with this horse. If they board the horse, I'm sure there is a trainer or someone else they can consult with. You don't need to step in and put yourself in a situation that just leaves you frustrated. If you've talked to her parents already, then you have done more then enough for these people.
         
        04-03-2013, 10:49 AM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    I've never been anywhere ever in my life that only gives hay, and I have boarded in two countries.
    That's actually the norm for "full" boarding around here. Water, hay and stall or paddock cleaning and nothing further The BO's however are very quick to notify you if your horse needs grain, supplements or other additions and will feed them, you just have to provide them.

    Going to waste? I could buy a 50,000 horse and throw it in a pasture just to admire. As long as said horse is properly cared for, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    No horse ever went OMG I could have been a Grand Prix Jumper but instead I got stuck mowing this pasture.
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        04-03-2013, 11:11 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    The challenge will come when they approach you for advice or help. I know that this has been the hardest part for me personally.

    I've told them what we did and how I would handle it, and they ignored me and bought a horse (that I told them I had concerns about). I got them involved with my own local resources/experts (our trainer and BO), they burned those bridges. At this point I'm not sure why they would want my help at all because obviously they don't like how I do things.

    So, when I've been approached for help or advice recently, I usually reply with: I don't know, I rely on my trainer/BO for that. It may seem passive/aggressive, but it has resulted in them bothering me a lot less about horse stuff.

    Where can I go to buy good hay? I don't know, the BO handles that. It's one of the reasons I board.

    How do I get my mare to stop dragging my daughter? I don't know. When we're having problems we talk to our trainer and get her advice and help.

    It's so frustrating, daughter can't ride in the rain! I imagine that would be frustrating. It's one of the reasons we picked our barn. I like having access to two covered arenas.

    You get the idea. :)
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        04-03-2013, 03:51 PM
      #28
    Weanling
    Hmm...I think I'll JSUT wait and see how it turns out. I don't really know the horse's character, but since it has such a high price, I think it's quite a beginner-friendly horse. And if the horse does end up "wasted" or badly taken care of, she'll probably get rid of it, she's a person like that.

    I'm 13 years old, so I'm only about 1 1/2 years older than that girl but I've been riding for 7 years, with professional trainers for 5 years. I used to live in Germany, and had those lessons there, at really nice stables (but most people who meet me never have any idea that im not actually a "true" kiwi) and then I moved to NZ when I was 10, and I'm still looking for the right trainer. But enough about me.

    Well, at least sue has the horse ON TRIAL, so if they just don't work out, she can still give it back. And if she does get it and something goes very wrong, there's still someone called "My Dad" ready to take it on well...maybe.
    I'll keep you updated, the horse will arrive in a few days.

    Oh, Btw, the lady she will keep the horse with will not feed it for her. So she will probably have to gain some knowledge about nutrition...

    I'll keep you guys updated.

    P.S: I do sound incredibly jealous and childish....but ugh...I'm just saying that she isn't exactly ready for an own horse. And one thing....she doesn't even truly LOVE horses, she just suddenly gained minor interest in horses since she met my sister and heard about me getting a horse. When she found out I got Luca, she went on a frantic hunt for a horse of her own. The entire lesson I've seen her do when I went there with my sis, she never showed ANY affection towards the horse she was riding, even after she was done riding. IMHO, the best thing for her would be to lease a horse first, to get the feel of true horsemanship. But hey, it's none of my business, so I'm just going to sit there and digest all the news about her, ready to give some advice here and there.
         
        04-03-2013, 03:52 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    Hmm...I think I'll just wait and see how it turns out. I don't really know the horse's character, but since it has such a high price, I think it's quite a beginner-friendly horse. And if the horse does end up "wasted" or badly taken care of, she'll probably get rid of it, she's a person like that.

    I'm 13 years old, so I'm only about 1 1/2 years older than that girl but I've been riding for 7 years, with professional trainers for 5 years. I used to live in Germany, and had those lessons there, at really nice stables (but most people who meet me never have any idea that im not actually a "true" kiwi) and then I moved to NZ when I was 10, and I'm still looking for the right trainer. But enough about me.

    Well, at least sue has the horse ON TRIAL, so if they just don't work out, she can still give it back. And if she does get it and something goes very wrong, there's still someone called "My Dad" ready to take it on well...maybe.
    I'll keep you updated, the horse will arrive in a few days.

    Oh, Btw, the lady she will keep the horse with will not feed it for her. So she will probably have to gain some knowledge about nutrition...

    I'll keep you guys updated.

    P.S: I do sound incredibly jealous and childish....but ugh...I'm just saying that she isn't exactly ready for an own horse. And one thing....she doesn't even truly LOVE horses, she just suddenly gained minor interest in horses since she met my sister and heard about me getting a horse. When she found out I got Luca, she went on a frantic hunt for a horse of her own. The entire lesson I've seen her do when I went there with my sis, she never showed ANY affection towards the horse she was riding, even after she was done riding. IMHO, the best thing for her would be to lease a horse first, to get the feel of true horsemanship. But hey, it's none of my business, so I'm just going to sit there and digest all the news about her, ready to give some advice here and there.
         
        04-03-2013, 03:53 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    Oops, somehow the iPad made me post the same thing twice
         

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