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post #1 of 10 Old 12-19-2008, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Mental abuse? Just need an opinion.

Ok well when my friend Mary first bought her horse he actually had a job and was worked everyday by his old owners. He was quite gorgeous and very muscular. The first few weeks he was worked almost everyday either by me or mary. Well when she wasnt able to work him i would go and ride him around the track. One day my dad was lunging him and i was teaching my horse some manners, Bob got away from my dad and was running all over the arena. Mary had just arrived and saw bob running wildly in the arena. Eventually i caught him using my horse as "bait," while shelbi was holding her. Mary's mom had a coniption fit and told us we ouldn bring him out ever again. so we never brought him out again. But he has gotten almost unruley. he will lay his ears back and try to bite. He hasnt been brought out of his pen in almost 2 months! All mary does is feed him and leave. she doesnt show him any kind of love or anything. I moved my horse to a different pen the other day and he's gotten worse. Shelbi and I try to give him some attention but he tries to bite constantly.

If yall made it through all that im proud of yall! lol.
What would yall do in this situtation. I understand its not my horse but theres gotta be something i can do.

Thanks for your help.


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post #2 of 10 Old 12-19-2008, 10:31 PM
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ha im so in this story. lol ive decided im stealing "bob" lol that horse needs more attention then he's getting and its sad to watch a horse that once was really amazing and still could be waste away like that. hes just rotting in that paddock when somebody could be getting good use out of him!
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post #3 of 10 Old 12-20-2008, 01:47 AM
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Sounds like more mental UNuse than ABuse. Going from everything to nothing is bound to make a boy a little upset.
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post #4 of 10 Old 12-20-2008, 01:12 PM
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I know it is hard to watch him suffer, but it is not considered abuse LEGALLY (tho it SHOULD be....) but there isn't much you can do. If it gets bad, tell her she hasto either do something about her horse's behavior, which you could suggest that some time out and about for him would help him, even if it is by her, or she will have to board him elsewhere. You don't need to be bit, feel guilty, or have another horse's care thrust on you by a negligent owner. You are bound to have mixed feelings, but you have done NOTHING wrong, and it isn't your fault. Try to remember that.

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post #5 of 10 Old 12-21-2008, 08:57 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone else?? If she cant get out there i'll feed him and groom him. What would yall do. Has anyone else been in this kind of situation?

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post #6 of 10 Old 12-21-2008, 09:59 PM
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Anyway that she would let you put a few toys in there for him? I'd keep trying to get her to allow you to take him out. "Please, please. I'll be very careful. I won't take him very far. I will have someone with me at all times."
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post #7 of 10 Old 12-24-2008, 09:45 PM
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maybe you can lunge him in a small round pin with a whip in hand just in case. therefore u can encourage the owner to lunge him by showing how simple it is. it is some exercise and groundwork at least....

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post #8 of 10 Old 12-24-2008, 11:04 PM
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I was in this exact same situation when I worked/live on the track. They had this standardbred stud who was probably like 13 or 14. The only time he EVER came out of his stall was if they were cleaning it and occasionally I think to collect. He had this big huge sign on his stall that said I BITE and...he did. He bit hard.
I felt horrible for him and would go over and love on him and give him attention. It helped a bit, he was friendly toward me but I had watched him go after his owner. I talked to the owner and he claimed that because he was a stud he couldnt run and play like the other horses. Load of crap.

I wouldn't feed him without the owners permission but it couldn't hurt to give the poor boy some attention. Situations like that are so depressing IMO
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post #9 of 10 Old 12-25-2008, 12:40 AM
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This happens at my barn all the time.
Boarders decide to only come a few times a year, and leave their horses to us. We'll take care of them, but we don't love on 'em, groom them, and all that.
Right now, there's a Rocky Mountain horse gelding named Mountain (lol) who is very aggressive towards other horses and will pin his ears at people. He hasn't tried to bite anyone yet though. My manager hates him because he picks on her gelding, but he's just grumpy.
So to give him something to do, instead of just pouring his grain in his bucket, I feed most of it by hand. I take a handful and make him stretch for it. To his flanks, between his knees, anything I can come up with. I've only been doing it for a few days, but I already noticed that he doesn't pin his ears at me when it's time for a meal.
I figure since I'm not feeding him any treats, only the grain that he'll get anyway, it's not that big of a deal. I'm not really worried about his owner walking in me because out of the 2/3 years that Mountain has been at our barn I've never seen his owner.
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post #10 of 10 Old 12-25-2008, 07:12 PM
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Unless they are doing things to the horse in closed quarters which you don't know about, it sounds to me like it's a simple manner of just working with the horse again. A lot of horses are like kids. You have to work with them regularly and remind them of the things they can and can't do just as a regular check.
I'm sure if someone were to start working with him again, his behavior could be corrected :)
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